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<blockquote data-quote="nittanytbone" data-source="post: 3686517" data-attributes="member: 35709"><p>Hello,</p><p></p><p>I'd like a quick bit of help on the Touch of Golden Ice feat from BoED to make sure that I know how to run it properly. Reference p. 35 BoED:</p><p></p><p><strong>"Ravages and afflictions affect only evil creatures..."</strong></p><p></p><p>Pretty straightforward. Animals and such won't be affected.</p><p></p><p><strong>"...despite the immunity to poison which is common among such creatures..."</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>Immunity to poison doesn't protect the victim. What about class abilities (such as a Monk's protection from diseases gained via the "Purity of Body" ability?</p><p></p><p>Would feats that grant bonuses vs. poison saves apply? What about spells (Such as Iron Guts)?</p><p></p><p><strong>"Ravages function in a manner similar to poisons..."</strong></p><p></p><p>Again, pretty straightforward. The ravage allows a DC14 save. So, a DC14 FORT save protects you from this.</p><p></p><p><strong>"Spells that function against poison and disease function, but they require a CL check vs. the DC of the ravage to negate it."</strong></p><p></p><p>So, you have to make a DC14 caster level check to deal with Golden Ice via slow poison or neutralize poison.</p><p></p><p><strong>"All ravages and afflictions are supernatural."</strong></p><p></p><p>So antimagic field would heal one. What about Dispel Magic? Or Spell Resistance?</p><p></p><p><strong>"Any evil creature either takes damage equal to that listed on the table (1d6 dex initial, 2d6 dex secondary), plus its CHA bonus."</strong></p><p></p><p>Say a CHA 8 monk attacks a CHA 20 succubus. Does the succubus take 1d6-1 (Monk's CHA) or 1d6+5 damage (its own CHA)? It seems odd to punish an evil creature for having good ability scores! What if the evil creature has no ability score for CHA, or a negative ability score? For example, a hobgoblin has 8 CHA; does that mean it takes 1d6-1 damage?</p><p></p><p>If damage is subtracted, is there a minimum of 1 PT of damage to dex? Or does a roll of 1 on 1d6-1 mean zero damage is inflicted?</p><p></p><p><strong>"An evil elemental or evil undead takes an extra 1 point of damage, and an evil cleric of an evil deity takes an extra two points of damage."</strong></p><p></p><p>What about an evil undead cleric? Would that be 3 points, or 2?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nittanytbone, post: 3686517, member: 35709"] Hello, I'd like a quick bit of help on the Touch of Golden Ice feat from BoED to make sure that I know how to run it properly. Reference p. 35 BoED: [B]"Ravages and afflictions affect only evil creatures..."[/B] Pretty straightforward. Animals and such won't be affected. [B]"...despite the immunity to poison which is common among such creatures..." [/B] Immunity to poison doesn't protect the victim. What about class abilities (such as a Monk's protection from diseases gained via the "Purity of Body" ability? Would feats that grant bonuses vs. poison saves apply? What about spells (Such as Iron Guts)? [B]"Ravages function in a manner similar to poisons..."[/B] Again, pretty straightforward. The ravage allows a DC14 save. So, a DC14 FORT save protects you from this. [B]"Spells that function against poison and disease function, but they require a CL check vs. the DC of the ravage to negate it."[/B] So, you have to make a DC14 caster level check to deal with Golden Ice via slow poison or neutralize poison. [B]"All ravages and afflictions are supernatural."[/B] So antimagic field would heal one. What about Dispel Magic? Or Spell Resistance? [B]"Any evil creature either takes damage equal to that listed on the table (1d6 dex initial, 2d6 dex secondary), plus its CHA bonus."[/B] Say a CHA 8 monk attacks a CHA 20 succubus. Does the succubus take 1d6-1 (Monk's CHA) or 1d6+5 damage (its own CHA)? It seems odd to punish an evil creature for having good ability scores! What if the evil creature has no ability score for CHA, or a negative ability score? For example, a hobgoblin has 8 CHA; does that mean it takes 1d6-1 damage? If damage is subtracted, is there a minimum of 1 PT of damage to dex? Or does a roll of 1 on 1d6-1 mean zero damage is inflicted? [B]"An evil elemental or evil undead takes an extra 1 point of damage, and an evil cleric of an evil deity takes an extra two points of damage."[/B] What about an evil undead cleric? Would that be 3 points, or 2? [/QUOTE]
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