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<blockquote data-quote="Grazzt" data-source="post: 3003880" data-attributes="member: 7"><p>Wow....old thread. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I know this..they changed the formula in 3.5 vs 3e (this thread was started back when 3e was still the system).</p><p></p><p>Cost is calculated in one of two ways:</p><p></p><p>1. ( (Price - cost of materials) / 2 ) + cost of materials</p><p></p><p>IRON: ((150,000 - 10,000) / 2) + 10,000 = 80,000 (cost)</p><p></p><p>-OR -</p><p></p><p>2. ( (Price / 2) + cost of materials</p><p></p><p>FLESH: (20,000 / 2) + 500 = 10,500 (cost)</p><p></p><p>The iron golem (MM) and the golems in MM3 use the first formula. The stone, clay, and flesh golem use the second formula.</p><p></p><p>XP Cost is 1/25th of the market price minus materials ((price - materials) / 25)</p><p></p><p>This only works for golems with listed prices and material costs. As for doing it from scratch (and finding a formula that works)....no clue.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: Also, not sure if the formula (if they have one) is based on HD or whatever. In MM3, the mud golem and web golem both have the following:</p><p></p><p>materials 1000 gp; Price: 65000; Cost 33000; XP 2560</p><p></p><p>They have different HD totals (mud = 14, web = 11).</p><p></p><p>Maybe the final formula/result is modified up or down based on strength of material used (webs vs mud). No idea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grazzt, post: 3003880, member: 7"] Wow....old thread. :) I know this..they changed the formula in 3.5 vs 3e (this thread was started back when 3e was still the system). Cost is calculated in one of two ways: 1. ( (Price - cost of materials) / 2 ) + cost of materials IRON: ((150,000 - 10,000) / 2) + 10,000 = 80,000 (cost) -OR - 2. ( (Price / 2) + cost of materials FLESH: (20,000 / 2) + 500 = 10,500 (cost) The iron golem (MM) and the golems in MM3 use the first formula. The stone, clay, and flesh golem use the second formula. XP Cost is 1/25th of the market price minus materials ((price - materials) / 25) This only works for golems with listed prices and material costs. As for doing it from scratch (and finding a formula that works)....no clue. EDIT: Also, not sure if the formula (if they have one) is based on HD or whatever. In MM3, the mud golem and web golem both have the following: materials 1000 gp; Price: 65000; Cost 33000; XP 2560 They have different HD totals (mud = 14, web = 11). Maybe the final formula/result is modified up or down based on strength of material used (webs vs mud). No idea. [/QUOTE]
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