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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 5124343" data-attributes="member: 59248">Draco: obviously, if you've switched to staff tricks, the numbers change a lot, that was why I went "-if- you stick with eldritch strike after switching to staff/staff fighting in paragon".  Also, Staff does d8 (which is still less than d10, yes, but not less than 10 +3 prof vs AC).  Actually...Strike is still more damage if you consider range/melee a wash with a staff (given that you have another ranged option, and are weaplamenting anyway).  +2 prof vs AC a reflex attack is a wash, sure -- but the abilitiy to flank and charge makes a -huge- difference to your effective damage; more, (given that the forced movement can also get you out of melee) than you get from another ranged option vs reflex.To put it another way: Eldritch Blast is the equivalent to "I make a basic attack with my longbow"; a pure replacement sop to warlocks for not otherwise having a ranged basic.  It's junk -- but if you can't wield a decent weapon anyway, it's probably worth it, particularly for non-infernallocks.By contrast, Eldritch Strike is among the top 10 melee at wills in the game.  Yes, Twin Strike and Righeous Brand and Magic Weapon are better.  But Overwhelming Strike, Footwork Lure, Tide of Iron?  All strictly worse, and doubly so (more limited, not a basic attack).  So if it fits into your build, it's almost certainly worth taking.</blockquote>