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<blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 4964163" data-attributes="member: 59248">Hmm.&nbsp; It depends on what you want to do.Are you thinking &quot;tank&quot; (eg, indomintable wall), or &quot;reach/controlling warden&quot;?&nbsp; A Goliath can excel at either, but they are quite different.I'll recommend, for starters <a href="http://community.wizards.com/charop/wiki/Warden" target="_blank">http://community.wizards.com/charop/wiki/Warden</a><a href="http://community.wizards.com/charop/wiki/Warden" target="_blank">http://community.wizards.com/charop/wiki/Warden</a>, which has a lot of useful analysis.Scraping slighty:feats:Sudden Roots: is fantastic.&nbsp; Suddenly, your oppys have serious teeth.Mark of Warding: What do you give someone who throws marks like they're popcorn?&nbsp; This.Weapon Expertise: Wardens like hitting things (effects on a hit do that).Greatweapon prowess: the proficiency is pointless, but +2 to damage isn't bad (obviously, better if you're using a reach weapon).I'd probably go for Nature's Abundance over Eyes of the Hawk -- a +10 to perception is neat, but your most important perception rolls are when you're not aware you need the bonus, and you're not going to have a high perception to begin with.beyond that...well, it really depends on where you want to take your build.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mneme, post: 4964163, member: 59248"] Hmm. It depends on what you want to do. Are you thinking "tank" (eg, indomintable wall), or "reach/controlling warden"? A Goliath can excel at either, but they are quite different. I'll recommend, for starters [URL]http://community.wizards.com/charop/wiki/Warden[/URL][URL="http://community.wizards.com/charop/wiki/Warden"][/URL], which has a lot of useful analysis. Scraping slighty: feats: Sudden Roots: is fantastic. Suddenly, your oppys have serious teeth. Mark of Warding: What do you give someone who throws marks like they're popcorn? This. Weapon Expertise: Wardens like hitting things (effects on a hit do that). Greatweapon prowess: the proficiency is pointless, but +2 to damage isn't bad (obviously, better if you're using a reach weapon). I'd probably go for Nature's Abundance over Eyes of the Hawk -- a +10 to perception is neat, but your most important perception rolls are when you're not aware you need the bonus, and you're not going to have a high perception to begin with. beyond that...well, it really depends on where you want to take your build. [/QUOTE]

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