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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Inconsequenti-AL" data-source="post: 1314296" data-attributes="member: 6584">The crux of the problem. I simply do not believe in a universal moral compass. I don't see why X cannot be an act which is good in some societies and not in others?For example - the construction of graven images - the centerpiece of some religions. One of the top 10 crimes according to the 10 commandments. It doesn't seem to have any absolute good/evil value to me?What is the logical reason that such a moral compass must exist? In what way does it "conflate opinion with fact" if there is not one?I don't think kidnapping and intercine warfare were included in my initial argument as a good thing: Just human sacrifice. I contend they may well have held that to be a 'good' thing rather than simply "acceptable means to ends". People in their society that did not agree with that particular behaviour were evil by their cultural compass and beliefs.And surely, our current viewpoint does not necessary prove that theirs was wrong.Although I'm pretty glad that we view it as wrong now. I imagine sacrificial slaughter is not a lot of fun. And I really wouldn't want to be stabbed to death as an offering. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As for the Greeks - I quite agree, that was a hot potato topic for them. However, have you noticed the views from that time that get repeated as 'wise' are the ones that gel with our current moral ideas? Nobody in todays society can go around espousing the opposite side of that argument without a lynching?</blockquote>

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