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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Inconsequenti-AL" data-source="post: 1315599" data-attributes="member: 6584">Believe was a bad term for me to choose, it's loaded with overtones of faith and dogma. Better put as 'I have an idea'. I'm quite willing to change it if I find one that either appeals more, or makes more sense. I think I got bogged down in specific examples and didn't manage to convey my point properly.I'm failing to understand why there has to be absolute right and wrong involved? Why can Y and not-Y both simply be beliefs of their respective cultures... neither has any more significance than the other.I don't reject the idea that absolute moral principle may exist. However, I do not see why they have to. The statement: 'There are no universal, objective moral principles.' is a comment on the concept of universal moral principles. It is not one in and of itself.RE: the final paragraph of your argument: The true/false argument does not come into the discussion of each moral. None of the beliefs are true or false. It's trying to assign a value to a property that an object does not have.</blockquote>