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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MerakSpielman" data-source="post: 1316090" data-attributes="member: 7464">I take it you mean that there are some moral principles that are held universally like "murder, stealing, and incest are wrong." You'll notice that all these beliefs that are held by the vast majority of cultures happen to be the beliefs that promote the long-term healthy survival of that culture. If there were a culture that attempted to state that the above items were morally acceptable, the culture would die out in short order from people murdering, stealing, and screwing up their bloodlines. So are these moral principles truly universal truths, or are they just really good ideas if you want your society to thrive?  My question from above still stands - suppose nobody in the world believed even one of the "true" things from the list of "Ultimate Truths." You would argue that that list still exists, I'm sure. But would we, on earth, notice the difference? Would we have any indication that we were going about everything wrong? Degree in English, here. [stern lecture]And just to remind you of something you probably know but don't seem to want to admit - you don't need to be getting credentials to be expanding your education! Check out some course outlines online and go to the library. Special order books they don't have. There's no excuse for not being as educated as you want to be in this country, even if you don't have the slip of paper to prove it. (and if you don't have time, well, you can make time for anything you really want to do. If you don't make time, you probably don't really want to do it badly enough.) I went to the library the other day with my wife and she was mortified that I checked out the complete works of Lord Byron. "Didn't you just graduate?" she asks, "I thought you'd be sick of that stuff by now."[/stern lecture]</blockquote>

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