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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4553075" data-attributes="member: 71571">No class is different than any other class.&nbsp; Their at-wills are all exactly the same.&nbsp; Twin-Strike is really the same as Furious Smash.&nbsp; They all do the same thing as Eyebite and Thunderwave.In otherwords... this belief does not bear out the facts.&nbsp; The cleric has zero at-will AoEs.&nbsp; I counted them twice.The cleric has one encounter AoE through the entire heroic tier.However, the cleric gets a couple AoEs he can use as dailies.&nbsp; So, twice per day, and once per encounter, the cleric can AoE.The wizard can AoE every single action he ever does, encounter, daily, or at-will, every adventuring day of his entire life.&nbsp; Many of them are enemy-only, should he need that.&nbsp; Very few of them don't come with additional effects that directly hinder the enemy.Yes.&nbsp; The cleric is the superior AoEer, until you actually try playing one as an AoEer, and realize his efficacy pales in comparison to the character -designed- around AoE.&nbsp; A wizard should actually be playing to the -party- strengths, and making up for holes in their defenses.&nbsp; Things like -prone- and -immobilized- and -stunned- are situational only in that the situation they work in is 'fighting monsters.'That happens a lot more than you think.Enemy with high hitpoints?&nbsp; Flaming Sphere.&nbsp; Bigby's Icy Grasp.&nbsp; Chill Strike.Want to create a chokehold?&nbsp; Icy Terrain.Want to help the rogue get CA?&nbsp; Icy Terrain.Want to give someone a free move?&nbsp; Jump.Want to cut off a line of attack or retreat?&nbsp; Web.There's ways of dealing with a lot of varied situations that hasn't even gotten past level 5, and ways that no other class has access to.&nbsp; Immobilization at range?&nbsp; Knocking an area of guys prone AND making an area difficult terrain?&nbsp; Make an entire hallway impassable while your ranged attacks kill them dead?There's a ton of utility in that, and a lot of those effects can serve multiple purposes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 4553075, member: 71571"] No class is different than any other class. Their at-wills are all exactly the same. Twin-Strike is really the same as Furious Smash. They all do the same thing as Eyebite and Thunderwave. In otherwords... this belief does not bear out the facts. The cleric has zero at-will AoEs. I counted them twice. The cleric has one encounter AoE through the entire heroic tier. However, the cleric gets a couple AoEs he can use as dailies. So, twice per day, and once per encounter, the cleric can AoE. The wizard can AoE every single action he ever does, encounter, daily, or at-will, every adventuring day of his entire life. Many of them are enemy-only, should he need that. Very few of them don't come with additional effects that directly hinder the enemy. Yes. The cleric is the superior AoEer, until you actually try playing one as an AoEer, and realize his efficacy pales in comparison to the character -designed- around AoE. A wizard should actually be playing to the -party- strengths, and making up for holes in their defenses. Things like -prone- and -immobilized- and -stunned- are situational only in that the situation they work in is 'fighting monsters.' That happens a lot more than you think. Enemy with high hitpoints? Flaming Sphere. Bigby's Icy Grasp. Chill Strike. Want to create a chokehold? Icy Terrain. Want to help the rogue get CA? Icy Terrain. Want to give someone a free move? Jump. Want to cut off a line of attack or retreat? Web. There's ways of dealing with a lot of varied situations that hasn't even gotten past level 5, and ways that no other class has access to. Immobilization at range? Knocking an area of guys prone AND making an area difficult terrain? Make an entire hallway impassable while your ranged attacks kill them dead? There's a ton of utility in that, and a lot of those effects can serve multiple purposes. [/QUOTE]

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