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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8620949" data-attributes="member: 19857">That is not the scenario you outlined.&nbsp; You have reversed the order of the events.&nbsp; The scenario you outlined is the players proposed to take an action, the DM high-handedly punished them for what he perceived as an abuse of the rules, causing them to fail the scenario and killing off all of the townspeople and having the BBEG win.And THEN he turns to the players to dress them down for daring to try to game the system and inviting them to leave if they don't like it.That's jerk behavior, and I wouldn't put up with it.&nbsp; If the DM was my friend I'd pull them aside and ask if they were okay or if they're having problems at home or something.&nbsp; If they were a stranger at a public game at a con or a game store I'd quietly pack up my bag and leave.If the order of events were the other way around (as I said in my response) that would be an adult dealing with other adults.&nbsp; The order you proposed it is a spoiled child dealing with other children.&nbsp; It's gross, and I wouldn't put up with anyone treating me that way, nor would I sit there while someone else treated the other players that way.&nbsp; Life's too short to deal with that kind of nonsense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jer, post: 8620949, member: 19857"] That is not the scenario you outlined. You have reversed the order of the events. The scenario you outlined is the players proposed to take an action, the DM high-handedly punished them for what he perceived as an abuse of the rules, causing them to fail the scenario and killing off all of the townspeople and having the BBEG win. And THEN he turns to the players to dress them down for daring to try to game the system and inviting them to leave if they don't like it. That's jerk behavior, and I wouldn't put up with it. If the DM was my friend I'd pull them aside and ask if they were okay or if they're having problems at home or something. If they were a stranger at a public game at a con or a game store I'd quietly pack up my bag and leave. If the order of events were the other way around (as I said in my response) that would be an adult dealing with other adults. The order you proposed it is a spoiled child dealing with other children. It's gross, and I wouldn't put up with anyone treating me that way, nor would I sit there while someone else treated the other players that way. Life's too short to deal with that kind of nonsense. [/QUOTE]

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