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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kaleon Moonshae" data-source="post: 1601463" data-attributes="member: 12147">Actually, I don't agree that angels are good and demons are bad. I guess I am a little more hardcore gray than some people, but that may be because I read too much Moorcock as a child and am also a taoist.I think a lot of the angels with lawful-good alignment are closer to evil than good, maybe not in their "end goal" but then Hitler's "goal" was not to be evil, it was to bring his country out of poverty so I think the ends are just an excuse. I mean a demon will do a "good" act to further his "goal" which goes to back up my feeling in my own mind.I don't believe in good or evil, I believe in relativity. The only alignments I tend to use in my own games are Law/Chaos/Balance. I beleive too far in either direction is "bad" and only that fine balance, tao, whatever, is "good."I do not think we should do away with alignment, it works for some people and easily ignored by the rest of us, I just don't use it. I still have spells like 'detect evil' and 'protection from good' but they take on a whole new meaning in my games where you are never sure if they will work or not, since there are no hard and fast rules concerning good and evil.Just my two cents</blockquote>