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<blockquote data-quote="Kaleon Moonshae" data-source="post: 1603425" data-attributes="member: 12147"><p>I don't nec consider myself an apologist, because that innately means that you see something that needs defending or justifying (at least I hope that is the definition you are using instead of the christian version<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />). I do not think there is a need for justification unless you are defensive, I'm not. I just like to put the facts out on the table and give my opinion. That may be a fine line, but it is a line. Yes, I could make a defense as you call it for the Assyrians if I actually knew anything about them, but then I have already stated that I do not believe in a fundamental 'good' or 'evil' but only of an ethical 'right' and 'wrong' so the point would be moot. If you have to use the dnd alignment system then I will completely agree with you that the assyrians were lawful-evil, but then I also say America is the same. Lawful-evil, in the way I read the books, just means you are the epitome of 'selfish' in the sense that you will always put yourself above others and will use the law to back you up, which explains most of the successful societies of the ages. I listed Babylon as Lawful-neutral because it was their *total* relience on Law that was their downfall, much as it was Japan's during world war II, when they were offered a peace treay numerous times as long as they renounced their emporer as god.</p><p></p><p>I enjoy debating with you basilisk, you have some very interesting thoughts and once you put them forward in an understandable form they are very enlightening, even if I do not agree with them a lot of the time, kudos.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kaleon Moonshae, post: 1603425, member: 12147"] I don't nec consider myself an apologist, because that innately means that you see something that needs defending or justifying (at least I hope that is the definition you are using instead of the christian version;)). I do not think there is a need for justification unless you are defensive, I'm not. I just like to put the facts out on the table and give my opinion. That may be a fine line, but it is a line. Yes, I could make a defense as you call it for the Assyrians if I actually knew anything about them, but then I have already stated that I do not believe in a fundamental 'good' or 'evil' but only of an ethical 'right' and 'wrong' so the point would be moot. If you have to use the dnd alignment system then I will completely agree with you that the assyrians were lawful-evil, but then I also say America is the same. Lawful-evil, in the way I read the books, just means you are the epitome of 'selfish' in the sense that you will always put yourself above others and will use the law to back you up, which explains most of the successful societies of the ages. I listed Babylon as Lawful-neutral because it was their *total* relience on Law that was their downfall, much as it was Japan's during world war II, when they were offered a peace treay numerous times as long as they renounced their emporer as god. I enjoy debating with you basilisk, you have some very interesting thoughts and once you put them forward in an understandable form they are very enlightening, even if I do not agree with them a lot of the time, kudos. [/QUOTE]
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