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<blockquote data-quote="Larrin" data-source="post: 4634341" data-attributes="member: 55816"><p>I'm not saying lawful "must follow laws" i'm saying lawful "has laws it follows" and Chaos "doesn't". Mr. Paladin can follows his laws whereever he is, and opposes laws that are contrary to his. Perfectly lawful from my point of view. You can have laws that value the few over the many just as easily as you can make laws that value the many over the few. I don't see how idividual rights is in anyway chaotic...Is the 'human right' not to be tortued, even if it might save people, Chaotic? Is my personal right to a trial by a jury of my peers chaotic? I don't see it. The many vs the few can have many different mixes within a lawful society.</p><p> </p><p>I would think a specific chaotic person could easily be individual focused, or he could be many focused or he could fluctuate between the two, or he could have no feelings either way. His actions in regards to many vs few are a product of his situation and his inclinations, not something you can nail down and say "This is how he should act; he's chaotic, so he'll value the individual rights over the many". </p><p> </p><p>For a Lawful person, you could definitely say "he values the many over the few" or "He values the individual over the Many", both are legitimate lawful views, and you can count on him to uphold those beliefs to the bitter end. Laws don't only favor the many. There are many laws that protect the individual. I really don't see that as being a definition of lawful.</p><p> </p><p>EDIT: But spatula is more or less correct in saying i have a 'literal interpretaion' of lawful/chaotic, i am promoting a 'fundementalist' view on the meaning of lawful and chaotic and how it should be applied in describing things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Larrin, post: 4634341, member: 55816"] I'm not saying lawful "must follow laws" i'm saying lawful "has laws it follows" and Chaos "doesn't". Mr. Paladin can follows his laws whereever he is, and opposes laws that are contrary to his. Perfectly lawful from my point of view. You can have laws that value the few over the many just as easily as you can make laws that value the many over the few. I don't see how idividual rights is in anyway chaotic...Is the 'human right' not to be tortued, even if it might save people, Chaotic? Is my personal right to a trial by a jury of my peers chaotic? I don't see it. The many vs the few can have many different mixes within a lawful society. I would think a specific chaotic person could easily be individual focused, or he could be many focused or he could fluctuate between the two, or he could have no feelings either way. His actions in regards to many vs few are a product of his situation and his inclinations, not something you can nail down and say "This is how he should act; he's chaotic, so he'll value the individual rights over the many". For a Lawful person, you could definitely say "he values the many over the few" or "He values the individual over the Many", both are legitimate lawful views, and you can count on him to uphold those beliefs to the bitter end. Laws don't only favor the many. There are many laws that protect the individual. I really don't see that as being a definition of lawful. EDIT: But spatula is more or less correct in saying i have a 'literal interpretaion' of lawful/chaotic, i am promoting a 'fundementalist' view on the meaning of lawful and chaotic and how it should be applied in describing things. [/QUOTE]
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