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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6200173" data-attributes="member: 6669384">A good answer.&nbsp; The character wouldn't just have to be &quot;changed&quot;.&nbsp; He's 100% gimick build, and if we retroactively disallow his gear, or his feats, or his race, the whole build collapses.&nbsp; And this is where the &quot;personalities&quot; come in.&nbsp; From what I've seen, it's the gimick build that appeals to the player, and that's the exact problem that the DM has with it.Because of the people involved, and because of the multi-DM nature of our campaign, I don't see our own situation as actually being resolvable.&nbsp; No single DM really feels comfortable laying the smackdown on him, and if we have a group vote it will look like we're ganging up on him.I could have asked how to get rid of the character in play, I suppose.&nbsp; I mean, I could detail his build and ask you good folks to pick it apart, to show me where he's conveniently misinterpreting rules or where his seemingly unstoppable tricks get stopped.&nbsp; That, however, is trending towards the &quot;bad form&quot; of a DM targeting a particular PC.So, to be clear, I wasn't asking for a game/PC specific solution.&nbsp; I was just trying to stimulate some thought and maybe wring out a bit of our shared wisdom on the topic in general.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6200173, member: 6669384"] A good answer. The character wouldn't just have to be "changed". He's 100% gimick build, and if we retroactively disallow his gear, or his feats, or his race, the whole build collapses. And this is where the "personalities" come in. From what I've seen, it's the gimick build that appeals to the player, and that's the exact problem that the DM has with it. Because of the people involved, and because of the multi-DM nature of our campaign, I don't see our own situation as actually being resolvable. No single DM really feels comfortable laying the smackdown on him, and if we have a group vote it will look like we're ganging up on him. I could have asked how to get rid of the character in play, I suppose. I mean, I could detail his build and ask you good folks to pick it apart, to show me where he's conveniently misinterpreting rules or where his seemingly unstoppable tricks get stopped. That, however, is trending towards the "bad form" of a DM targeting a particular PC. So, to be clear, I wasn't asking for a game/PC specific solution. I was just trying to stimulate some thought and maybe wring out a bit of our shared wisdom on the topic in general. [/QUOTE]

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