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<blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6162770" data-attributes="member: 6681948">But he gets the same choice to avoid any of the other CM's you describe as well.&nbsp; If my weapon was poisoned, or had a nasty spell trigger, or attack was going to force him to make a save-or-die, why would I give him an option to avoid that result by accepting some less painful result?&nbsp; To me, the &quot;defender chooses&quot; aspect makes this system 100% useless.&nbsp; The attacker will not choose to use a combat maneuver unless the result of success is preferable to doing damage.&nbsp; The defender will not choose to let the combat maneuver work if the result of success is worse than taking damage.&nbsp; Thus, a combat maneuver check will either not be attempted by the attacker, or will be overridden by the defender, with the result being success only if the attacker or defender makes a sub-optimal choice, or the attacker is lucky enough to roll a critical hit.This removed combat maneuvers as viable combat choices - if, to you, that is a desirable result, then it is a good change for you.&nbsp; Otherwise, not so much.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="N'raac, post: 6162770, member: 6681948"] But he gets the same choice to avoid any of the other CM's you describe as well. If my weapon was poisoned, or had a nasty spell trigger, or attack was going to force him to make a save-or-die, why would I give him an option to avoid that result by accepting some less painful result? To me, the "defender chooses" aspect makes this system 100% useless. The attacker will not choose to use a combat maneuver unless the result of success is preferable to doing damage. The defender will not choose to let the combat maneuver work if the result of success is worse than taking damage. Thus, a combat maneuver check will either not be attempted by the attacker, or will be overridden by the defender, with the result being success only if the attacker or defender makes a sub-optimal choice, or the attacker is lucky enough to roll a critical hit. This removed combat maneuvers as viable combat choices - if, to you, that is a desirable result, then it is a good change for you. Otherwise, not so much. [/QUOTE]

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