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<blockquote data-quote="Zanticor" data-source="post: 4626552" data-attributes="member: 65408"><p>I had the same thing come up with my parties priest who discovered the Planar Ally spells but from the other side of the screen. I can tell you it pisses of your DM if midway into a carefully designed campaign your players want to introduce Planar Ally as a summon spell for unlimited Inevitable Marut calling. I read the spell again and decided it does not allow for you to chose what will come and help you. That remains up to your god (or DM). So a greater planar ally can bring you a small elemental or a big Marut. Just what your god thinks is needed to overcome the challenge. For me that means that if you get your Marut you can't recast the spell to get four. Your god only gets annoyed and may send you the same Marut again and again. Also, if you don't threat them right I would think your god able to redeploy his resources and have someone else summon him. I don't advice against giving your players help if they really want/need it but don't let them design the kind of help they get. Remember with these kind of spells: if you try to get to much out of it, It will be used against you. Every cleric you meet from that point onwards will have his own templated, lycantroped, undead pit fiend (18hd) bodyguard.</p><p></p><p>Zanticor</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zanticor, post: 4626552, member: 65408"] I had the same thing come up with my parties priest who discovered the Planar Ally spells but from the other side of the screen. I can tell you it pisses of your DM if midway into a carefully designed campaign your players want to introduce Planar Ally as a summon spell for unlimited Inevitable Marut calling. I read the spell again and decided it does not allow for you to chose what will come and help you. That remains up to your god (or DM). So a greater planar ally can bring you a small elemental or a big Marut. Just what your god thinks is needed to overcome the challenge. For me that means that if you get your Marut you can't recast the spell to get four. Your god only gets annoyed and may send you the same Marut again and again. Also, if you don't threat them right I would think your god able to redeploy his resources and have someone else summon him. I don't advice against giving your players help if they really want/need it but don't let them design the kind of help they get. Remember with these kind of spells: if you try to get to much out of it, It will be used against you. Every cleric you meet from that point onwards will have his own templated, lycantroped, undead pit fiend (18hd) bodyguard. Zanticor [/QUOTE]
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