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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 1255146" data-attributes="member: 8439">Whoa. Bearing in mind that I say this as a rabid, fanatical watcher of Law and Order, Jack McCoy aint lawful good. No way, no how. The fact that the show's title has the word "law" in it doesn't automaticly make it relevant to judging lawful or good behavior in D&D...And I just don't see "mercy shown because of cooperation" as anything but spin. The situation decribed is no different morally than the chaotic neutral barbarian saying "tell me what I want to know or I'll kill you." Its a death threat to obtain information, and were I the DM I would judge it accordingly. If you think its ok for good characters to make death threats to get info, especially for people they would be ok killing anyway, there's no problem. I have a problem with it. I don't consider my problem irrational, though I'm willing to conceed the entire conversation as philosophical.As to people who have accused me of being anal, the orriginal example was a person whose cleric had taken the domains of Law and Good. To repeat myself, I take domain choice VERY seriously. If you think you can't maintain both, you better not choose both, because its more than an overall description at that point - I'd hold them to paladinesque standards.As for claiming its a "impossible situation" by my judgement, this entire thread was started on how to get information as a good party, with the assumption being that death threats and tourture would be out. Several good ideas have been put forth, and similar to what someone opined with speak with dead difficulties, obtaining information from an uncooperative prisoner while maintaining a good allignment and behaviour is supposed to be hard. Deal with it. (if people were saying my stance makes it impossible for a lawful good character to deal with survivors/prisoners at all, thats also false, but it is certainly true that you have to plan ahead a little and think about the issue. Field justice is also not easy, though magic has the capacity to make it a lot easier.)And with that, I think we've gone in circles enough. Kahuna burger</blockquote>

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