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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takasi" data-source="post: 3314301" data-attributes="member: 20194">The grammar is tough to think of off the top of my head.  I can try to point out the assumptions though.#1 assumes that the statement "A cleric can't cast spells..." applies to all spells, whether they are arcane, divine or acquired from another class.  Does this mean he cannot cast them at all (even if he wanted to) or does it mean he loses his class abilities?  Unlike other descriptions of class restrictions (paladin, monk, druid) there is no wording here, so one can assume he cannot cast them at all even if he wanted to.  Does this make sense in game?  No.  It would seem that this is how the rules are written though.#2 includes the word "all".  That is a major assumption.  The exact wording is "prepares and casts spells the way a cleric does".  Does this mean a druid or ranger has all of the restrictions?  The term "the way" is important here, as it implies a similar (and not necessarily exact) method.  If you take into account the layout and positioning of the text in the ranger and druid descriptions you'll see they are both at or near the last paragraph of the spells section.  Here is the last paragraph for cleric spells.  I would assume you can substitute the word cleric with ranger or druid:"Clerics do not acquire their spells through books or scrolls, nor do they prepare them through study.  Instead, they meditate or pray for their spells, receiving them through their own strength of faith or as divine inspiration."Here's a question to ask in this discussion.  A new class, let's call it the Prayermage, does not acquire its spells through books or scrolls.  Instead the Prayermage meditates for its spells, receiving them through strength of faith.  Could you (with proper grammer) now say that the Prayermage prepares spells the way a cleric does?  Not the same way a cleric does, but the way a cleric does?  These are the most important items to resolve in this argument IMO.</blockquote>

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