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Goodman Games: Our Efforts Have Been Mischaracterized
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<blockquote data-quote="Distracted DM" data-source="post: 9675997" data-attributes="member: 6894926"><p>Some folk don't see licensing the property as "working with," since JG isn't involved in the design of the remake. I mentioned this in another thread, but originally when all of this went down folk on the GG Discord were incensed at the news.. but then when it became clear that JG wasn't directly involved, the earnings were going to pay off the old KSer refunds, etc. it became a much more reasonable prospect... Then Bledsaw shot his mouth off on social media, saying a bunch of stuff about further works with GG that GG later said was false.</p><p></p><p>So, it's a tough spot. In GG's mind this is likely a beloved IP that they're revitalizing/preserving and they've done their best to distance themselves from JG... yet early on they were talking about building bridges, and they clearly have no intention of dropping the project, seemingly regardless of the IP owner's actions. This also does give JG a bit of a spotlight where they've had little to none for years.</p><p></p><p>Folk on the GG Discord seem happy to get the product, they don't see "licensing the IP" as "working with," I guess "in business with" would be a more definite statement but they largely seem placated on the ethical issues of the project. I'm still uncomfortable with it, which sucks because otherwise I'd back it in a second because I really enjoy GG's products.</p><p></p><p>The association with Bledsaw/JG also tarnishes GG's reputation, but I don't think it's to the degree that some folk think <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>For some of us it's black and white (some one way, some the other), and for others it's a mess that we (I) can't ethically justify. I think what really nails it down as "I can't support this" is the timeline. GG said they weren't going to do any more JG products due to their views. This is another JG product. They're trying to "build bridges" with nasty folk... I don't get it :'(</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Distracted DM, post: 9675997, member: 6894926"] Some folk don't see licensing the property as "working with," since JG isn't involved in the design of the remake. I mentioned this in another thread, but originally when all of this went down folk on the GG Discord were incensed at the news.. but then when it became clear that JG wasn't directly involved, the earnings were going to pay off the old KSer refunds, etc. it became a much more reasonable prospect... Then Bledsaw shot his mouth off on social media, saying a bunch of stuff about further works with GG that GG later said was false. So, it's a tough spot. In GG's mind this is likely a beloved IP that they're revitalizing/preserving and they've done their best to distance themselves from JG... yet early on they were talking about building bridges, and they clearly have no intention of dropping the project, seemingly regardless of the IP owner's actions. This also does give JG a bit of a spotlight where they've had little to none for years. Folk on the GG Discord seem happy to get the product, they don't see "licensing the IP" as "working with," I guess "in business with" would be a more definite statement but they largely seem placated on the ethical issues of the project. I'm still uncomfortable with it, which sucks because otherwise I'd back it in a second because I really enjoy GG's products. The association with Bledsaw/JG also tarnishes GG's reputation, but I don't think it's to the degree that some folk think :( For some of us it's black and white (some one way, some the other), and for others it's a mess that we (I) can't ethically justify. I think what really nails it down as "I can't support this" is the timeline. GG said they weren't going to do any more JG products due to their views. This is another JG product. They're trying to "build bridges" with nasty folk... I don't get it :'( [/QUOTE]
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