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<blockquote data-quote="myrkulyte" data-source="post: 9846406" data-attributes="member: 7049799"><p>I got into the OSR ~1.5 years ago after ignoring it and most D&D adjacent rpg stuff for the past decade. I've got to say, I've <em>never </em>entered into a part of any hobby where I've been recommended so many products or blogs created by bigots. The OSR seems to me to be way too comfortable with these people as a part of the community and with encouraging newcomers to invest in their products. Here, on ENWorld, I'm glad to say that the OSR people are vocal about speaking out about this stuff. That has absolutely not been my experience on other discussion platforms. </p><p></p><p>The thing about a lot of OSR creators is they're doing it themselves, and when you buy their stuff your helping them out directly. This is great! Except when that person has made transphobic/racist/whatever comments. Then your dollar going straight to them is not so good. </p><p></p><p>There have been many creators that I have been eager to buy from after hearing glowing reviews of their dungeons/adventures only to find out have been making all sorts of hateful comments online. It's not a one off thing for me, it happened like three times in a row, and each time I had to dig into it because the OSR community seems to be extremely reluctant to talk about or acknowledge that these people even exist.</p><p></p><p>Now, I get why people feel defensive when people talk about the OSR having a bigotry problem, but come on. A minority of loud bigots it may be, but I only heard about these people because when I was pointed their way and told their stuff was good, and I know for a fact that I'm not the only one that got my first exposure to the OSR that way. I don't want to be impolite or start a huge argument here, but I'm really sick of being told the OSR is just as welcoming as anywhere else. I'm glad that you guys have only had positive experiences, but man, I've <em>seen</em> the bigots, I've <em>seen </em>people recommend buying their stuff, and I've <em>seen</em> people say that what they said or did isn't a big deal. Well, it is a big deal to me, and it's a big deal to me that so many people in the OSR deny that it is.</p><p></p><p>I just want to reiterate, the OSR community here on ENWorld is way better than anywhere else and I don't wan't to insult anyone on this site. But I do think ENWorld is something of an oasis, not just for the OSR but rpg discussion online in general.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="myrkulyte, post: 9846406, member: 7049799"] I got into the OSR ~1.5 years ago after ignoring it and most D&D adjacent rpg stuff for the past decade. I've got to say, I've [I]never [/I]entered into a part of any hobby where I've been recommended so many products or blogs created by bigots. The OSR seems to me to be way too comfortable with these people as a part of the community and with encouraging newcomers to invest in their products. Here, on ENWorld, I'm glad to say that the OSR people are vocal about speaking out about this stuff. That has absolutely not been my experience on other discussion platforms. The thing about a lot of OSR creators is they're doing it themselves, and when you buy their stuff your helping them out directly. This is great! Except when that person has made transphobic/racist/whatever comments. Then your dollar going straight to them is not so good. There have been many creators that I have been eager to buy from after hearing glowing reviews of their dungeons/adventures only to find out have been making all sorts of hateful comments online. It's not a one off thing for me, it happened like three times in a row, and each time I had to dig into it because the OSR community seems to be extremely reluctant to talk about or acknowledge that these people even exist. Now, I get why people feel defensive when people talk about the OSR having a bigotry problem, but come on. A minority of loud bigots it may be, but I only heard about these people because when I was pointed their way and told their stuff was good, and I know for a fact that I'm not the only one that got my first exposure to the OSR that way. I don't want to be impolite or start a huge argument here, but I'm really sick of being told the OSR is just as welcoming as anywhere else. I'm glad that you guys have only had positive experiences, but man, I've [I]seen[/I] the bigots, I've [I]seen [/I]people recommend buying their stuff, and I've [I]seen[/I] people say that what they said or did isn't a big deal. Well, it is a big deal to me, and it's a big deal to me that so many people in the OSR deny that it is. I just want to reiterate, the OSR community here on ENWorld is way better than anywhere else and I don't wan't to insult anyone on this site. But I do think ENWorld is something of an oasis, not just for the OSR but rpg discussion online in general. [/QUOTE]
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