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<blockquote data-quote="dm4hire" data-source="post: 5050651" data-attributes="member: 14848">My disgruntlement started with the failure to uphold the promise of open beta for 4e and slowly built from there.&nbsp; I stayed a fence sitter for a year or so, but slowly devolved into a &quot;it's great for a pickup game&quot; mentality then moved on.&nbsp; I personally believe that if WotC had done the open beta and loosened their grip on the mechanics, which they seem to think are exclusively theirs, the game would be a lot better and there wouldn't be nearly as much schism as we're seeing.&nbsp; Until 4e the majority of mechanics were still very similar which is why I believe the rift between editions wasn't so noticeable compared to what we're seeing now, that and the internet definitely allows people to be more outspoken about it.As far as Goodman goes though I still think they can pull if off if done correctly though I don't know if the market will support it.&nbsp; As has been mentioned a lot of players don't want cross market products.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dm4hire, post: 5050651, member: 14848"] My disgruntlement started with the failure to uphold the promise of open beta for 4e and slowly built from there. I stayed a fence sitter for a year or so, but slowly devolved into a "it's great for a pickup game" mentality then moved on. I personally believe that if WotC had done the open beta and loosened their grip on the mechanics, which they seem to think are exclusively theirs, the game would be a lot better and there wouldn't be nearly as much schism as we're seeing. Until 4e the majority of mechanics were still very similar which is why I believe the rift between editions wasn't so noticeable compared to what we're seeing now, that and the internet definitely allows people to be more outspoken about it. As far as Goodman goes though I still think they can pull if off if done correctly though I don't know if the market will support it. As has been mentioned a lot of players don't want cross market products. [/QUOTE]

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