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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 6174401" data-attributes="member: 8835"><p>Part of the problem with this example is profile management on shared devices.</p><p></p><p>In the Windows 95 era, normal people didn't have logins to their computer. You turned it on, surfed porn, turned it off. then your mom turned it on, surfed for recipes, looked at porn ads, and that was it. You had no real privacy (technically you could, but normal people didn't know that) because it wasn't in your face.</p><p></p><p>Sometime around Windows XP, that model changed, and EVERYBODY got a login prompt. Instead of being off by default, it was now enforced by default. This meant you login as you, surf porn, cookie gets written to YOUR profile's cookie directory, then you log off. When your mom logs in, she's loading cookies from HER profile directory.</p><p></p><p>Problem solved.</p><p></p><p>Except that now we get to mobile devices which don't account for different users when you pick up the device. So we're back to the old model that this highly personal device isn't all that personally protected.</p><p></p><p>Now in the last few years, I'd heard some Androids were getting a front-facing profile selector when you swipe open the device. Basically setting the stage for Mommy's profile, and the kids, so the stuff is separate again.</p><p></p><p>And the alleged fingerprint scanner in the Home button on the next iPhone would presumably be for the same purpose. Identify WHO is using the device, before showing apps, content and data.</p><p></p><p>Once every device is secured by user profile and users are not foolishly sharing their profile, then you've got protection over this simple part of the privacy problem.</p><p></p><p>Which is sharing your machine with other people without isolating your data, cookies, profile from them.</p><p></p><p>this problem isn't the password to my gmail account or the cookies I'm collecting when I surf. The problem is letting somebody else use my profile on the PC/mobile device.</p><p></p><p>do not F'ing do that. That's actually a HIPAA violation in the workplace. Any IT shop or InfoSec office at a company should ban profile sharing or password sharing. I login, I do stuff, I logout or lock the console before I step away.</p><p></p><p>the same applies at the house. My wife logs in on her account, I log in as mine. We don't share smart phones, except in the most utilitarian ways (can you look up XYZ that only exists on my device, my hands are full).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Janx, post: 6174401, member: 8835"] Part of the problem with this example is profile management on shared devices. In the Windows 95 era, normal people didn't have logins to their computer. You turned it on, surfed porn, turned it off. then your mom turned it on, surfed for recipes, looked at porn ads, and that was it. You had no real privacy (technically you could, but normal people didn't know that) because it wasn't in your face. Sometime around Windows XP, that model changed, and EVERYBODY got a login prompt. Instead of being off by default, it was now enforced by default. This meant you login as you, surf porn, cookie gets written to YOUR profile's cookie directory, then you log off. When your mom logs in, she's loading cookies from HER profile directory. Problem solved. Except that now we get to mobile devices which don't account for different users when you pick up the device. So we're back to the old model that this highly personal device isn't all that personally protected. Now in the last few years, I'd heard some Androids were getting a front-facing profile selector when you swipe open the device. Basically setting the stage for Mommy's profile, and the kids, so the stuff is separate again. And the alleged fingerprint scanner in the Home button on the next iPhone would presumably be for the same purpose. Identify WHO is using the device, before showing apps, content and data. Once every device is secured by user profile and users are not foolishly sharing their profile, then you've got protection over this simple part of the privacy problem. Which is sharing your machine with other people without isolating your data, cookies, profile from them. this problem isn't the password to my gmail account or the cookies I'm collecting when I surf. The problem is letting somebody else use my profile on the PC/mobile device. do not F'ing do that. That's actually a HIPAA violation in the workplace. Any IT shop or InfoSec office at a company should ban profile sharing or password sharing. I login, I do stuff, I logout or lock the console before I step away. the same applies at the house. My wife logs in on her account, I log in as mine. We don't share smart phones, except in the most utilitarian ways (can you look up XYZ that only exists on my device, my hands are full). [/QUOTE]
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