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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus2" data-source="post: 3642498" data-attributes="member: 11586">You can find it <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm" target="_blank">here</a>  under Natural Weapons.It is also covered in the FAQ:What happens when creatures use their natural weapons as secondary attacks along with a manufacturedweapon?  For example, lizardfolk have two claws that also serve as hands. What happens when they wield a onehanded weapon in one hand and nothing in the other?  Do they lose both claw attacks in exchange for their attacks with the weapon?Wielding a manufactured weapon doesn’t prevent a creature from using all its natural weaponry, provided that the creature is using the full attack action and the additional natural weapons are free.The example lizardfolk can’t make a claw attack with the “hand” that holds its weapon, although it does get to attack with the weapon itself. But, if it’s using the full attack action, it can use its other claw as a natural secondary attack (–5 to attack rolls, half Strength bonus), and can also bite as a natural secondary attack. In effect, the lizardfolk is using its normal full attack routine with the manufactured weapon attack substituted for one claw attack.Which is why the minotaur stat block that mikebr99 looks the way it does.  His axe (a manufactured weapon) is the primary attack.  He still gets to make iterative attacks with it (provided he is capable of making a full attack action).  So that is +9/+4.  Per the FAQ, he is still allowed to attack with his Gore, but it is considered a secondary attack (if he had other natural attacks, such as a Bite, he could do that too).  Since it is a secondary attack, he attacks at his BAB (+9) and takes a -5 penalty.  This is where the +4 comes from.  He also only applies half Str to the attack (which is why it is 1d8+2).Get it?</blockquote>

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