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<blockquote data-quote="Traveon Wyvernspur" data-source="post: 5806554" data-attributes="member: 73201">[MENTION=35909]StreamOfTheSky[/MENTION] thanks for getting back to me on the answer.That's exactly what I thought, but I emailed my DM about it and he feels differently. He said that it's a rage where I go into it willingly - not trying to save vs. a spell - and therefore the confusion is a side effect of the archetype's uncontrolled rage ability and it isn't subject to the trait which gives me added saving throws to the effect. I emailed him back and asked him if <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/faith-traits/indomitable-faith" target="_blank">Indomitable Faith</a> would work instead since it's specific to WILL saves... I won't fight him on it either way or whine about it, I was just trying to mitigate the damage that could occur to my party members if they were too close to me when I went into an uncontrolled rage after failing a WILL save. I figure the best course of action right now during the lower levels while the WILL save is harder to make will be to just make sure they are further away than the next enemy before I go into a rage and if they do get too close that's just the way things are and they better try to tie me up or get out of reach of my sword!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Traveon Wyvernspur, post: 5806554, member: 73201"] [MENTION=35909]StreamOfTheSky[/MENTION] thanks for getting back to me on the answer. That's exactly what I thought, but I emailed my DM about it and he feels differently. He said that it's a rage where I go into it willingly - not trying to save vs. a spell - and therefore the confusion is a side effect of the archetype's uncontrolled rage ability and it isn't subject to the trait which gives me added saving throws to the effect. I emailed him back and asked him if [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/faith-traits/indomitable-faith"]Indomitable Faith[/URL] would work instead since it's specific to WILL saves... I won't fight him on it either way or whine about it, I was just trying to mitigate the damage that could occur to my party members if they were too close to me when I went into an uncontrolled rage after failing a WILL save. I figure the best course of action right now during the lower levels while the WILL save is harder to make will be to just make sure they are further away than the next enemy before I go into a rage and if they do get too close that's just the way things are and they better try to tie me up or get out of reach of my sword! [/QUOTE]

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