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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zil" data-source="post: 4188988" data-attributes="member: 20004">Yea, I certainly remember some of the arguments that could arise from Area of Effect spells and Area of Effect traps... "there's no way I was within 10 feet of that chest the thief was poking around with" and such.  I suppose if we had been diligently using miniatures, or writing our positions on the map (anyone remember that the AD&D rules used to recommend one person be the official mapper) we might have won more of those arguments.Then again, if someone lobbed a fireball at you in those days while you were in your typical AD&D dungeon, odds are you were gonna be affected because you were encouraged to think through the effects of putting a large volume spell in a confined area so the fireball would stretch quite far up long hallways and such.   I don't remember when that was done away with - certainly by third edition.   Perhaps by second edition?</blockquote>