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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunderstone" data-source="post: 4194397" data-attributes="member: 23497">Sashi and Fitz, you are missing my point. Personally I never said anyone had to buy WotC brand miniatures. I still use my old Julie Guthries. That said......1) Yes I like miniatures.2) Yes I hate painting them.3) Yes I hat the fact that wotc sells random miniatures so some folks will keep buying till they get what they want, thats an obvious marketing ploy. But we are moving off topic kinda with this.I couldnt care less that 1st edition is easier to run than 3E and/or 4E. I like 3E so im staying. Im just saying that both 3E and 4E are more tactical in nature than 1 or 2E rules wise. I couldnt care less how many used minis in the earlier editions with house rules etc. It doesnt change the fact that the game has indeed taken a more tactical approach over the RPG element as far as the printed rules go. Im glad the mini-fans got rules incorporated into the books, good for you all. For me having to draw on a battle mat for almost every encounter (again ymmv), slows the game down while everyone waits till the battlefield to be depicted. I still do it, its just one of the things I hate about 3E and 4E. And to those of you thinking that WotC did not factor in mini-sales into make the games more mini-heavy, all I can say is "lol".Furthermore, I said specifically that YMMV.Late Edit-- at the risk of a reprimand by the mods, some of you are too gung ho when it comes to posts concerning WotC and 4E. Take the time to read the post before you lock into one word that may offend you, then bring the holier-than-though to the folks you think cant handle the complexities of 4E. This is why I dont post here very often.</blockquote>

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