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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 1003379" data-attributes="member: 6875"><p>Oh, you mean, teh day the company was founded? Face it: TSR was a business, and it's goal was, first and foremost, to make a profit. TSR's latter days were marred solely because the people making the decisions didn't <em>understand</em> what the gaming publis REALLY wanted, and drove their product into the ground.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll admit to sharing that concern, but for different reasons; WOTC and Hasbro are the same in one way: they exist in order to generate profit.</p><p></p><p>The difference is, WOTC knows gamers, and Hasbro might not. So far, Hasbro has been smart enough not to intrude too much in terms of what does or doesn't see the light of day.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Bah. Use monopoly pieces. Use toy plastic soldiers. Use the little people-figures from Lego. Use scraps of paper. Heck, use old DICE.</p><p></p><p>We've done 'em all; I've played BattleTech that way (the classic FASA version), and that is nothing BUT a miniatures game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Compare the size of a human's hands to those of a halfling. Major difference there, right?</p><p></p><p>Compare the hilt/grip/etc part of a toy sword meant for, say, a six or seven year old kid in real life, to the hilts of a sword sized for adults; major difference, right? Even when the blades are of generally-identical length.</p><p></p><p>The grips are different. Now, you can simply rule that a MAGIC weapon resizes to suit it's wielder, <strong>just like magic armor does</strong>, and that +2 Longsword is just that, no matter who wields it ... a halfling or a human or an ogre.</p><p></p><p>Or you can use the rules (as I've heard the situation explained) where they suggest those very equivalencies: a medium shortsword and a small longsword are, functionally, the same weapon. The application of a little GM judgement and common sense can go a loooong way, after all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Funny; I've NEVER put an NPC in a situation where there could be combat, without having all the information I needed ready to go BEFOREHAND ... so I never USED the old NPC tables, not once.</p><p></p><p>Do your prep work before the game, not during.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I half agree; I'll be bumping these spells to 10 minutes per level; I like encouraging actual purchase of actual items to boost attributes, but I don't think 1 minute per level is fair, either. At 1 minute per level, I'd say they were 1st level spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Jeeze, get a grip, will ya?</p><p></p><p>I bought the 1E PHB, DMG, MM1, MM2, WSG, DSG, FF, De&De, and so on.</p><p></p><p>Then 2E came out, and I bought the 2E PHB, DMG, MM (hardcover only), L&L, all the Race books, and most of the class books (I missed form barbarian/ninja onward) ... along with a few of the green-cover setting books and blue-cover DM supplements. Along with several other products (Faiths and Avatars was one of my favorites ... just in terms of how MUCH rules-meat they packed into the book ...)</p><p></p><p>Now 2E is out, and I've bought a lot of THAT, too.</p><p></p><p>You know what? I don't care. I'm truly <strong>poor</strong> (my annual income is just about HALF the US Federally-listed "poverty level"), yet, I don't regret the money I spent on products I felt were worthwhile at the time of purchase.</p><p></p><p>As far as new books: I'll look them over, and if the WHOLE is worth my money, I'll buy it. If it's not, I won't; WOTC isn't going to send out dark-elf hit squads to shoot people who don't buy the new products, for heaven's sake!</p><p></p><p>I had already planned a massive revision of the rules, as part of a campaign world I'm building. 3/5 only makes my work different, and a bit bigger; while I disagree with some individual changes ... I'm not going to run around in circles crying "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" over it.</p><p></p><p>I'll just quietly change what I dislike, and vote with my wallet WRT what's good and what's crap.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pax, post: 1003379, member: 6875"] Oh, you mean, teh day the company was founded? Face it: TSR was a business, and it's goal was, first and foremost, to make a profit. TSR's latter days were marred solely because the people making the decisions didn't [i]understand[/i] what the gaming publis REALLY wanted, and drove their product into the ground. I'll admit to sharing that concern, but for different reasons; WOTC and Hasbro are the same in one way: they exist in order to generate profit. The difference is, WOTC knows gamers, and Hasbro might not. So far, Hasbro has been smart enough not to intrude too much in terms of what does or doesn't see the light of day. Bah. Use monopoly pieces. Use toy plastic soldiers. Use the little people-figures from Lego. Use scraps of paper. Heck, use old DICE. We've done 'em all; I've played BattleTech that way (the classic FASA version), and that is nothing BUT a miniatures game. Compare the size of a human's hands to those of a halfling. Major difference there, right? Compare the hilt/grip/etc part of a toy sword meant for, say, a six or seven year old kid in real life, to the hilts of a sword sized for adults; major difference, right? Even when the blades are of generally-identical length. The grips are different. Now, you can simply rule that a MAGIC weapon resizes to suit it's wielder, [b]just like magic armor does[/b], and that +2 Longsword is just that, no matter who wields it ... a halfling or a human or an ogre. Or you can use the rules (as I've heard the situation explained) where they suggest those very equivalencies: a medium shortsword and a small longsword are, functionally, the same weapon. The application of a little GM judgement and common sense can go a loooong way, after all. Funny; I've NEVER put an NPC in a situation where there could be combat, without having all the information I needed ready to go BEFOREHAND ... so I never USED the old NPC tables, not once. Do your prep work before the game, not during. I half agree; I'll be bumping these spells to 10 minutes per level; I like encouraging actual purchase of actual items to boost attributes, but I don't think 1 minute per level is fair, either. At 1 minute per level, I'd say they were 1st level spells. Jeeze, get a grip, will ya? I bought the 1E PHB, DMG, MM1, MM2, WSG, DSG, FF, De&De, and so on. Then 2E came out, and I bought the 2E PHB, DMG, MM (hardcover only), L&L, all the Race books, and most of the class books (I missed form barbarian/ninja onward) ... along with a few of the green-cover setting books and blue-cover DM supplements. Along with several other products (Faiths and Avatars was one of my favorites ... just in terms of how MUCH rules-meat they packed into the book ...) Now 2E is out, and I've bought a lot of THAT, too. You know what? I don't care. I'm truly [b]poor[/b] (my annual income is just about HALF the US Federally-listed "poverty level"), yet, I don't regret the money I spent on products I felt were worthwhile at the time of purchase. As far as new books: I'll look them over, and if the WHOLE is worth my money, I'll buy it. If it's not, I won't; WOTC isn't going to send out dark-elf hit squads to shoot people who don't buy the new products, for heaven's sake! I had already planned a massive revision of the rules, as part of a campaign world I'm building. 3/5 only makes my work different, and a bit bigger; while I disagree with some individual changes ... I'm not going to run around in circles crying "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" over it. I'll just quietly change what I dislike, and vote with my wallet WRT what's good and what's crap. [/QUOTE]
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