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Message: <blockquote data-quote="thompsja" data-source="post: 5616942" data-attributes="member: 39371">What you are running into is the "superhero" problem.  What does government mean when singular individuals are as powerful as a combat brigade?  Think of the X-men comics/movies:  Magneto.Governments would be deeply threatened by individuals with a high degree of personal power.  So governments would be formed by stakeholders with the power.  In the past that was people would had such wealth as able to field large armies.  This would still be important, but having a 16th level wizard wouldn't be bad, either. I could see a bunch of wealthy families allying with a church for mutual protection: see Saudi Arabia.  Depending on the interested parties' relative power would determine how things shook out.   Some place may have wizards running it, others could be a bunch of nobles ( who have been secretly murdered and replaced by dopplegangers), or anything else.  The point is that there is a source of power controlled by the rulers, enabling them to be in charge.  In our world, it's called money. (sorry to be inflammatory)And if some outsider comes around and starts causing trouble?  Well, they stamp him out.  If he's too strong they cut a deal with him, or flee.   My point is that every King in a D&D setting is going to have some sort of alliance to a magical force in order to maintain power.    If they don't someone will just kill him and take his stuff.Certainly, the players could come upon a town and take it over easily.  Assuming a government that been around, and therefore competent, they scry the people, cast commune or legend lore, then manuever people around wherever.  Then, they have their casters blast them with multiple spells at the same time.  They would have absolutely no interest in fighting fair, or being CR appropriate.Just like players.</blockquote>

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