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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 5196897" data-attributes="member: 20741">If the test for "top tier" is licensed setting of any consequence, is anybody in the biz aggressively licensing other than Green Ronin? Probably not.FWIW, I don't think that licensing Star Trek or Lord of the Rings ever made Decipher a "top tier" company. It takes more than that.I think the answer is one which is ultimately based upon sales and staying power of the product line: in short, it is a matter of "we'll see".FWIW, I don't think Mayfair was ever in the "top tier" when they were publishing DC Heroes. TSR never had that success with Marvel Super Heroes game either (though I don't think they tried nearly as hard as they should have). Still, if TSR had succeeded with Marvel, they (or WotC) would still be publishing it, imo. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles RPG back in the day? Same result.Comic book RPGs have never been top tier games, mainly, im my opinion, as they have never been able to develop a style of play which appeals to the type of player who likes treasure+leveling in their games -- while at the same time remaining true to their fanbase and premise.  That does not make M+M, Marvel Super Heroes, DC Heroes, Champions, or V&V or any of the many variants thereof over the last thirty years bad games -- it just means that the audience they appeal to is a subset of the broader RPG hobby audience (which mainly means D&D players) as a whole.It would be nice to see how possible it is to intregrate DC Clix into Mutants and Masterminds 3rd ed in a way to make the game appeal to the D&D crowd.  (If they miss that opportunity in an effort to remain true to the comic book genre, it will be a commercial mistake, imo. But not being the mftrs of DC Clix, their motive is not strong as it needs to be, imo. We'll see.</blockquote>

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