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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OnlineDM" data-source="post: 5340305" data-attributes="member: 90804">Here's how it works once you're grabbed.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">On your turn, you may use a move action (not a standard action) to try the Escape action (page 243 of the rules compendium).  You make your choice of either an Athletics check against the grabber's Fortitude defense, or an Acrobatics check against the grabber's Reflex defense.  If the Escape action succeeds, you are no longer grabbed (though if you don't quickly move out of there - maybe trading your standard action for a move action - nothing is stopping the creature from attempting to grab you again on its next turn).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In addition, the description of the Grabbed condition on page 231 of the Rules Compendium explains that the grabbed condition ends immediately on the creature if the grabber is subjected to an effect that prevents it from taking actions, or if the grabbed creature ends up outside the range of the grabbing power or effect.</li> </ul>Two things to note on that second point: First, the Grabbed condition has received errata to make it so the grab only ends if the creature is prevented from taking ALL actions, not just OPPORTUNITY actions (this is a change from how Grabbed originally worked).  So Dazing a creature that's grabbing another creature does not cause the grab to end any more (but Stunning it does cause the grab to end).Second, forced movement only matters if the grabbed creature ends up outside the range of the power that did the grabbing.  If a Roper has a range of 10 on its grab power, then forced movement would only break the grab if it causes the two creatures to be more than 10 squares apart.Note that lots of grabbing powers have a range of 1 or 2 squares, so pushing the grabber a square or two is enough to break the grab in that case.  With a Roper who has you held right up against itself, you'd need 10 squares of forced movement on either you or the Roper in order to have that end the grab.  Note that the Roper's initial grab attack doesn't actually move you - if you're 10 squares away when it grabs you, you're still 10 squares away until it reels you in or it moves closer.  So if it grabs you and fails to reel you in, it doesn't take much forced movement to break the grab (but Ropers being Ropers, it probably WILL reel you in).</blockquote>

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