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Message: <blockquote data-quote="thefutilist" data-source="post: 9313054" data-attributes="member: 7044566">Well I’ve been thinking about this mostly through the lens of Apocalypse World and I think I’ve found my problem with visible clocks.As a player I think you want fuzziness in how consequences will play out.I’m not a huge fan of this framing but there’s at least two kinds of escalation in stories.The thing the character did failed to work, now what?And a series of escalations by someone else, which can be framed as ‘even now?’I don’’t care about mutantsOk but there’s this guy called Isle who really seems to have a problem with themYeah so whatAlright but now this guy called Isle is loading up on gunsYeah so whatNow this Isle guy, he’s saying you need to banish the mutants from the holdingYeah so whatThe Hardholder has refused to hand over the mutants and Isle claims he’s going to attack but it’s still really only the mutants he wantsYeah so whatOk Isle has taken over the holding and true to his word he’s not unleashing a reign of terror on everyone but some of this men have dragged the mutant Squidface out and squid face is crying and his lips are quivering and they look as if they’re going to kill himHmm. I go and shoot Isle’s men in the face. (for whatever reason), it could be far more complex than ‘just’, oh I care about mutants now, when the consequences are being brought home.So that’s one very good reason you don’t want a clock.The other is incidental conflicts of priorities. So one tick above is:Now this Isle guy, he’s saying you need to banish the mutants from the holdingI may not care about the mutants but Isle can naughty word off if he thinks he can just walk into the Holding.So that’s another reason you might not want to see the clock.Does that make any sense?</blockquote>

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