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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 9162856" data-attributes="member: 6779310">I used to love it, mostly for Fantasy Hero... but I've since found it just too complex to bother with, especially since I don't like having to say, "I'm using an older edition because I think the recent edition's changes make it a worse game."Even still, it's not a bad system. Most of the math (unless the GM allows VPPs) is preloaded during CharGen. I still think it's the closest to a simulationist agenda in print... but noting what it simulates isn't our reality.If I had players willing to do the math, and a copy of Herobase... I'd be willing to run it FTF.I still have a copy of the MS-DOS Heromaker... and my 4E/5E books.</blockquote>