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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CleverNickName" data-source="post: 9114720" data-attributes="member: 50987">Have you used Pathfinder 2E's updated d20 System? What did you think of it?I've never played it myself, but I recently picked up the digital books and I've been reading through them.  I think the Wikipedia article introduces it better than I could:Among key changes in the second edition is a streamlined action economy. Each round, each character can perform up to three actions on their turn as well as one reaction on their own turn or another character's turn. Most basic moves, such as moving across the ground, drawing a weapon, or making an attack cost a single action, while more complicated maneuvers may require two or three actions.  The rules around magic items have been changed to discourage players from hoarding too many items and instead encouraging them to seek out more powerful equipment.  Critical hits have also been changed – a critical success now occurs any time a combatant rolls 10 more than the target's armor class. Combatants can also critically succeed when defending which usually results in no effect rather than the reduced effect a save would usually bring. Finally there has been a broad change to all number scaling of skills, armor class, attack rolls, saves, and difficulty classes. All these numbers now scale 1-to-1 with a character's level plus a stat plus a bonus between two and eight depending on their proficiency. This results in extremely bounded values when compared to the first edition. Stats have also had their range lowered when compared to the first edition. Now the D20 System is the undeniable favorite for tabletop RPGs nowadays, but it comes in a lot of different flavors.  I think that most of us are familiar with the 5E D&D version, but it certainly not the only game in town.So! If you've played the Pathfinder 2E version of the D20 System, please let us know what you think of it, what you love or hate about it, and the kinds of games you run with it. And if you've never played it, what's keeping you from giving it a spin? Inquiring moogles want to know!  I'll collect everyone's votes and give the system a "grade" from A+ to F.Grade: B-All voters have heard of it (100%), 68% have played it.Of those who have played it: 26% love it, 28% like it, 32% are lukewarm, 13% dislike it, and 1% hate it.[SPOILER=Grading]The "grade" is calculated as follows:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Votes from people who have not played will not affect the grade.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Love" votes are worth 4 points.  The highest score, comparable to an "A" vote.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Like" votes are worth 3 points.  The equivalent of a "B" vote.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Meh" votes are worth 2 points.  This is your basic "C" vote.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Dislike" votes are worth 1 point.  This is considered a "D" vote.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Hate" votes are worth 0 points.  The lowest score, considered an "F" vote.</li> </ul>The grading formula:GPA = Σ(P[sub]i[/sub]V[sub]i[/sub])where:GPA = "grade-point average," the grading score used in the Key below. V[sub]i[/sub] = percentage of votes in each category (Love, Like, Meh, Dislike, or Hate) P[sub]i[/sub] = corresponding score for that category (4, 3, 2, 1, or 0)KeyOver 3.75 = A+3.51 to 3.75 = A3.26 to 3.50 = A-3.01 to 3.25 = B+2.76 to 3.00 = B2.51 to 2.75 = B-2.01 to 2.50 = C+1.76 to 2.00 = C1.51 to 1.75 = C-1.26 to 1.50 = D+1.01 to 1.25 = D0.75 to 1.00 = D-Under 0.75 = F[/SPOILER]<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/tell-me-about-the-cypher-system.699558/post-9113969" target="_blank">Grading the Cypher System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-pathfinder-2e-game-system.699577/post-9114720" target="_blank">Grading the Pathfinder 2E (D20) System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-savage-worlds-system.699639/post-9118485" target="_blank">Grading the Savage Worlds System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-fate-fate-core-system.699746/post-9123350" target="_blank">Grading the Fate/Fate Core System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-modiphius-2d20-system.699862/post-9130300" target="_blank">Grading the Modiphius 2d20 System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-gurps-system.700000/post-9136681" target="_blank">Grading the GURPS System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-powered-by-the-apocalypse-pbta-system.700132/post-9143576" target="_blank">Grading the Powered by the Apocalypse System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-d6-system.700240/post-9149838" target="_blank">Grading the D6 System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-hero-system.700391/" target="_blank">Grading the Hero System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-storyteller-system.700467/post-9165156" target="_blank">Grading the Storyteller System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-megaversal-palladium-system.700634/post-9172320" target="_blank">Grading the Megaversal/Palladium System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-basic-roleplaying-system.700825/post-9181516" target="_blank">Grading the Basic Role-Playing System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grading-the-saga-system.700972/post-9189430" target="_blank">Grading the SAGA System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grading-the-warhammer-40k-system.701299/post-9204415" target="_blank">Grading the Warhammer 40K RPG System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grading-the-m%C3%B6rk-borg-system.701662/post-9221640" target="_blank">Grading the Mörk Borg System</a><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grading-the-rolemaster-spacemaster-system.702503/post-9259178" target="_blank">Grading the Spacemaster/Rolemaster System</a></blockquote>

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