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<blockquote data-quote="bert1001 fka bert1000" data-source="post: 9210239" data-attributes="member: 7029588">Pluses:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">most power is in the core class features and can't be traded away through multi class or feat choices.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">encounter creation math that works</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">playable levels 1-20 without completely falling apart</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">classes mostly balanced with some outliers that aren't way off the charts</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">lots of character customization (esp if use free archtype)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">3 action economy is a great idea</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">success ladder vs binary pass/fail</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">combat game is more about tactical choices than build.&nbsp; teamwork is rewarded</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">very easy to run from DM side (perhaps more complex to learn at first)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">everything is free</li>
</ul>Cons:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">went a little too far nerfing some spellcasters at lower levels (cough wizard).&nbsp;&nbsp; Mid/Higher levels seem fine</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">magic is general is ok but don't love some of the choices --- should have called &quot;success&quot; save&nbsp; &nbsp; -&gt; &quot;minor failure&quot; and gone from there for player pyschology, should be a way to occasionally get an incapacitation off,&nbsp; more spells that interact with the 3 action economy, etc.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">early adventures overtuned so you can get the wrong impression on difficulty / how to build encounters</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">a little too many modifiers/conditions but not a deal killer</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">I'm not a huge fan of the way they did skill feats -- too many &quot;permission&quot; feats instead of bonuses.&nbsp;&nbsp; e.g., should be a +5 to interact with royalty instead of &quot;you can....&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; It feels like feat gating for mundane things.&nbsp;&nbsp; Not hard to house rule but I'm not a fan.</li>
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[QUOTE="bert1001 fka bert1000, post: 9210239, member: 7029588"] Pluses: [LIST] [*]most power is in the core class features and can't be traded away through multi class or feat choices. [*]encounter creation math that works [*]playable levels 1-20 without completely falling apart [*]classes mostly balanced with some outliers that aren't way off the charts [*]lots of character customization (esp if use free archtype) [*]3 action economy is a great idea [*]success ladder vs binary pass/fail [*]combat game is more about tactical choices than build. teamwork is rewarded [*]very easy to run from DM side (perhaps more complex to learn at first) [*]everything is free [/LIST] Cons: [LIST] [*]went a little too far nerfing some spellcasters at lower levels (cough wizard). Mid/Higher levels seem fine [*]magic is general is ok but don't love some of the choices --- should have called "success" save -> "minor failure" and gone from there for player pyschology, should be a way to occasionally get an incapacitation off, more spells that interact with the 3 action economy, etc. [*]early adventures overtuned so you can get the wrong impression on difficulty / how to build encounters [*]a little too many modifiers/conditions but not a deal killer [*]I'm not a huge fan of the way they did skill feats -- too many "permission" feats instead of bonuses. e.g., should be a +5 to interact with royalty instead of "you can...." It feels like feat gating for mundane things. Not hard to house rule but I'm not a fan. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]

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