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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Roxlimn" data-source="post: 4359098" data-attributes="member: 11878">KarinsDad:Your criteria for evaluating the spreadsheets are flawed.  The at-will choices on consideration in the PHB only target Ref, and the illusionary at-will is considered on its Will targeting alone (that being unique).Thus, if you want to weigh Ref vs. Fort, you only have to count whether a monster either has better Ref than Fort or better Fort than Ref.  Extremely high counts of Fort relative to Ref don't count because as long as Fort is higher, you aren't going to be using that power anyway, regardless of how high the Fort happens to be.  That's the only criterion.If you use this more practical measure, you'll come up with better numbers and that will reflect itself in play.That's probably why you should be taking a bunch of skills.</blockquote>