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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4367910" data-attributes="member: 2011">Yes. There are ~30% of the creatures with a Fort lower than Reflex. But, there are only about 10% where Fort is the lowest of Fort, Reflex, and Will. Hence, taking an At Will vs. Fort doesn't make a lot of sense when the other two Defenses tend to be lower.And yes, with Knowledge skills, you can (sometimes) discern proper targeting.DC 25 Heroic Tier creatureDC 30 Paragon Tier creatureDC 35 Epic Tier creatureIt's quite doable, but not guaranteed. The majority of the time, such a roll will fail except at Epic level (unless the Wizard devotes extra bonuses to his skills such as Skill Focus). For example, the chances at first level for an 18 Int Wizard even with Skill Training is only 25%. At 10th level against a Heroic Tier creature, it is 50%. But, at 10th level, PCs will often be going against Paragon Tier creatures and it will again drop to 25%.And, the chance for success is only semi-decent against creatures that correspond to the knowledge skills the Wizard actually has Skill Training in. If the Wizard does not have the skill, the chance of success is slim.The problem is that the only Fort At Will in the game totally sucks (to hit vs. most creatures, and damage) until Paragon level that it doesn't make sense to gimp yourself against most creatures in order to gain a slight edge against a few. It's not always possible to target an enemy with an AoE power without targetting allies as well.A Human could take Ray of Frost along with two other At Wills. This is terribly suboptimal for Heroic non-Humans.It does make sense to devote an Encounter power to Fort once the Wizard has 3 Encounter Attack powers. Before that, I agree that it does not. The difference between At Will and Encounter powers is that the Wizard only get 2 or 3 At Will whereas he can get 5 or 6 Encounter Attack powers. Hence, it makes more sense to devote 1 (or even 2) Encounter powers instead of 1 At Will to anti-Fort.At lower levels, the difference between Fort and Reflex is typically 3 or less. It doesn't make sense to worry about low Fort creatures too much until much higher levels when the difference between can be really significant (like 4 or 6 where it really makes a huge difference to pick the proper power). But even then, it is a very very low percentage of the creatures (like < 2%). Who cares about that?Hence, a Wizard can ignore having a way to attack low Fort creatures until nearly Paragon level and it will make little difference in the game. At that point, he can either retrain an At Will to Ray of Frost, or use up an Encounter Power. It makes little difference, especially considering that he has typically at best a 50% chance of figuring out the weakness of a foe anyway.</blockquote>

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