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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 4754147" data-attributes="member: 43019">ongoing 5 damage != 10 unless you have save penalties to attach to the effect, and even then damage delayed 1 or 2 turns is less valuable than damage now.Avernian's base damage is the same as Fireball's, but with no miss damage. Miss damage may not seem like much, but it has a large effect on average damage all the same.Curse damage does not apply to ongoing damage or to misses, just to hits, so no... their damage is functionally equivalent. The only way to bring Fireball back to Avernian's level is to assume that increased burst size is a _penalty_, which is downright silly.Fwiw, I'm not opposed to Fireball being a C+ - it just means I need to take a more grim look at the other powers of that level most likely <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />But, after posting the at-wills. They're all rewritten now and I just need to finish rereading the thread and see if it's at all viable to put the grades into the wiki for others to maintain, then I can start looking at fixing the dailies <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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