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<blockquote data-quote="CleverNickName" data-source="post: 9189430" data-attributes="member: 50987"><p>Have you used the SAGA System for any tabletop games? From what I can tell, this system was really only ever used for two games: <em>Dragonlance: Fifth Age </em>and the <em>Marvel Super Heroes Adventure Game, </em>both published by TSR, Inc. Wikipedia says the following about it:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 40px"><em>The <strong>SAGA System</strong> is a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game" target="_blank">role-playing game</a> system that uses "fate cards" to determine the effects of actions. The cards have numbers, suits, positive and negative states, and role-playing cues that guide the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamemaster" target="_blank">gamemaster</a> in telling the story and administering the game. The system has been used in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSR,_Inc." target="_blank">TSR, Inc.</a>'s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonlance:_Fifth_Age" target="_blank">Dragonlance: Fifth Age</a> game and the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Super_Heroes_Adventure_Game" target="_blank">Marvel Super Heroes Adventure Game</a>, later published by TSR. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sue_Weinlein_Cook" target="_blank">Sue Cook</a> was the brand manager for both of those game systems, and helped design the SAGA game rules.</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 40px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 40px"><em>In SAGA, a player holds a hand of fate cards that represent his health and the range of actions he can take. The maximum number of cards he can hold is determined by the number of quests he has completed. This replaces the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_points" target="_blank">experience points</a> system of many other role-playing games. The cards replace dice-rolling, as well. When a player attempts an action, he plays a card from his hand. If the suit on the card matches the action type (swords for strength-related actions, for example) it is considered "Trump." Playing a trump card means that the player can draw another card from the top of the Fate Deck and add the number on it to his total for attempting the action. When a character takes damage, the player must discard the number of points of damage to be taken from his hand. When a player has no more cards in his hand, the character is unconscious.</em></p><p></p><p>As I've said before in the other threads, the D20 System is the undeniable favorite for tabletop RPGs today, but there are plenty of options out there for those who don't like D20 or might be looking for something different. My goal in these little surveys is to highlight the different systems and options available to tabletop fans...I certainly don't want to bash anyone's favorites. So! If you've used the SAGA System, I'd really like to hear about your experience. What did you like/dislike about it? What games did you play? And if you've never played it or one of the many successful games that use it, what's stopping you? I'll collect everyone's votes and give the system a "grade" from A+ to F, just for fun.</p><p></p><p><strong>Grade: C+</strong></p><p>Of those who voted, 88% have heard of it and 39% have played it.</p><p>Of those who have played it: 26% love it, 16% like it, 37% are lukewarm, 11% dislike it, and 11% hate it.</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER=Grading]The "grade" is calculated as follows:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Votes from people who have not played it will not affect the grade.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"I love it" votes are worth 4 points. The highest score, comparable to an "A" vote.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"It's pretty good" votes are worth 3 points. The equivalent of a "B" vote.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"It's alright I guess" votes are worth 2 points. This is your basic "C" vote.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"It's pretty bad" votes are worth 1 point. This is considered a "D" vote.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"I hate it" votes are worth 0 points. The lowest score, considered an "F" vote.</li> </ul><p></p><p>The grading formula:</p><p><span style="font-size: 22px">GPA = Σ(P<em>[sub]i[/sub]</em>V<em>[sub]i[/sub]</em>)</span></p><p></p><p>where:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px">GPA = "grade-point average," the grading score used in the Key below.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">V[sub]<em>i</em>[/sub] = percentage of votes in each category (Love, Like, Meh, Dislike, or Hate)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">P[sub]<em>i</em>[/sub] = corresponding score for that category (4, 3, 2, 1, or 0)</p><p></p><p><strong>Key</strong></p><p>Over 3.75 = A+</p><p>3.51 to 3.75 = A</p><p>3.26 to 3.50 = A-</p><p>3.01 to 3.25 = B+</p><p>2.76 to 3.00 = B</p><p>2.51 to 2.75 = B-</p><p>2.26 to 2.50 = C+</p><p>1.76 to 2.25 = C</p><p>1.51 to 1.75 = C-</p><p>1.26 to 1.50 = D+</p><p>1.01 to 1.25 = D</p><p>0.75 to 1.00 = D-</p><p>Under 0.75 = F</p><p></p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/tell-me-about-the-cypher-system.699558/post-9113969" target="_blank">Grading the Cypher System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-pathfinder-2e-game-system.699577/post-9114720" target="_blank">Grading the Pathfinder 2E (D20) System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-savage-worlds-system.699639/post-9118485" target="_blank">Grading the Savage Worlds System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-fate-fate-core-system.699746/post-9123350" target="_blank">Grading the Fate/Fate Core System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-modiphius-2d20-system.699862/post-9130300" target="_blank">Grading the Modiphius 2d20 System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-gurps-system.700000/post-9136681" target="_blank">Grading the GURPS System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-powered-by-the-apocalypse-pbta-system.700132/post-9143576" target="_blank">Grading the Powered by the Apocalypse System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-d6-system.700240/post-9149838" target="_blank">Grading the D6 System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-hero-system.700391/" target="_blank">Grading the Hero System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-storyteller-system.700467/post-9165156" target="_blank">Grading the Storyteller System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-megaversal-palladium-system.700634/post-9172320" target="_blank">Grading the Megaversal/Palladium System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-basic-roleplaying-system.700825/post-9181516" target="_blank">Grading the Basic Role-Playing System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grading-the-saga-system.700972/post-9189430" target="_blank">Grading the SAGA System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grading-the-warhammer-40k-system.701299/post-9204415" target="_blank">Grading the Warhammer 40K RPG System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grading-the-m%C3%B6rk-borg-system.701662/post-9221640" target="_blank">Grading the Mörk Borg System</a></p><p><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/grading-the-rolemaster-spacemaster-system.702503/post-9259178" target="_blank">Grading the Spacemaster/Rolemaster System</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CleverNickName, post: 9189430, member: 50987"] Have you used the SAGA System for any tabletop games? From what I can tell, this system was really only ever used for two games: [I]Dragonlance: Fifth Age [/I]and the [I]Marvel Super Heroes Adventure Game, [/I]both published by TSR, Inc. Wikipedia says the following about it: [INDENT=2][I]The [B]SAGA System[/B] is a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game']role-playing game[/URL] system that uses "fate cards" to determine the effects of actions. The cards have numbers, suits, positive and negative states, and role-playing cues that guide the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamemaster']gamemaster[/URL] in telling the story and administering the game. The system has been used in [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSR,_Inc.']TSR, Inc.[/URL]'s [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonlance:_Fifth_Age']Dragonlance: Fifth Age[/URL] game and the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Super_Heroes_Adventure_Game']Marvel Super Heroes Adventure Game[/URL], later published by TSR. [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sue_Weinlein_Cook']Sue Cook[/URL] was the brand manager for both of those game systems, and helped design the SAGA game rules.[/I][/INDENT] [INDENT=2][/INDENT] [INDENT=2][I]In SAGA, a player holds a hand of fate cards that represent his health and the range of actions he can take. The maximum number of cards he can hold is determined by the number of quests he has completed. This replaces the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_points']experience points[/URL] system of many other role-playing games. The cards replace dice-rolling, as well. When a player attempts an action, he plays a card from his hand. If the suit on the card matches the action type (swords for strength-related actions, for example) it is considered "Trump." Playing a trump card means that the player can draw another card from the top of the Fate Deck and add the number on it to his total for attempting the action. When a character takes damage, the player must discard the number of points of damage to be taken from his hand. When a player has no more cards in his hand, the character is unconscious.[/I][/INDENT] As I've said before in the other threads, the D20 System is the undeniable favorite for tabletop RPGs today, but there are plenty of options out there for those who don't like D20 or might be looking for something different. My goal in these little surveys is to highlight the different systems and options available to tabletop fans...I certainly don't want to bash anyone's favorites. So! If you've used the SAGA System, I'd really like to hear about your experience. What did you like/dislike about it? What games did you play? And if you've never played it or one of the many successful games that use it, what's stopping you? I'll collect everyone's votes and give the system a "grade" from A+ to F, just for fun. [B]Grade: C+[/B] Of those who voted, 88% have heard of it and 39% have played it. Of those who have played it: 26% love it, 16% like it, 37% are lukewarm, 11% dislike it, and 11% hate it. [SPOILER=Grading]The "grade" is calculated as follows: [LIST] [*]Votes from people who have not played it will not affect the grade. [*]"I love it" votes are worth 4 points. The highest score, comparable to an "A" vote. [*]"It's pretty good" votes are worth 3 points. The equivalent of a "B" vote. [*]"It's alright I guess" votes are worth 2 points. This is your basic "C" vote. [*]"It's pretty bad" votes are worth 1 point. This is considered a "D" vote. [*]"I hate it" votes are worth 0 points. The lowest score, considered an "F" vote. [/LIST] The grading formula: [SIZE=6]GPA = Σ(P[I][sub]i[/sub][/I]V[I][sub]i[/sub][/I])[/SIZE] where: [INDENT]GPA = "grade-point average," the grading score used in the Key below.[/INDENT] [INDENT]V[sub][I]i[/I][/sub] = percentage of votes in each category (Love, Like, Meh, Dislike, or Hate)[/INDENT] [INDENT]P[sub][I]i[/I][/sub] = corresponding score for that category (4, 3, 2, 1, or 0)[/INDENT] [B]Key[/B] Over 3.75 = A+ 3.51 to 3.75 = A 3.26 to 3.50 = A- 3.01 to 3.25 = B+ 2.76 to 3.00 = B 2.51 to 2.75 = B- 2.26 to 2.50 = C+ 1.76 to 2.25 = C 1.51 to 1.75 = C- 1.26 to 1.50 = D+ 1.01 to 1.25 = D 0.75 to 1.00 = D- Under 0.75 = F [/SPOILER] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/tell-me-about-the-cypher-system.699558/post-9113969']Grading the Cypher System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-pathfinder-2e-game-system.699577/post-9114720']Grading the Pathfinder 2E (D20) System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-savage-worlds-system.699639/post-9118485']Grading the Savage Worlds System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-fate-fate-core-system.699746/post-9123350']Grading the Fate/Fate Core System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-modiphius-2d20-system.699862/post-9130300']Grading the Modiphius 2d20 System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-gurps-system.700000/post-9136681']Grading the GURPS System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-powered-by-the-apocalypse-pbta-system.700132/post-9143576']Grading the Powered by the Apocalypse System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-d6-system.700240/post-9149838']Grading the D6 System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-hero-system.700391/']Grading the Hero System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-storyteller-system.700467/post-9165156']Grading the Storyteller System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-megaversal-palladium-system.700634/post-9172320']Grading the Megaversal/Palladium System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grade-the-basic-roleplaying-system.700825/post-9181516']Grading the Basic Role-Playing System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grading-the-saga-system.700972/post-9189430']Grading the SAGA System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grading-the-warhammer-40k-system.701299/post-9204415']Grading the Warhammer 40K RPG System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grading-the-m%C3%B6rk-borg-system.701662/post-9221640']Grading the Mörk Borg System[/URL] [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/grading-the-rolemaster-spacemaster-system.702503/post-9259178']Grading the Spacemaster/Rolemaster System[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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