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<blockquote data-quote="Goblyn" data-source="post: 4033776" data-attributes="member: 16889"><p>Smaller? I don't think so. Now that this ability exists, variations on this ability will likely rise, not to mention feats, skill tricks, talents ... whatever you want to call them. That is rules bloat. Anyone without this special bugbear ability can't use the 'meat shield' technique ... impossible unless you have the feat. Doesn't that sound a lot like 3.5e? Or more specifically, one of the things that the design team were trying to get away from in 3.5e?</p><p></p><p>How would this more easily be applied? Thus: <em>A creature within a grapple targeted by an external attack</em> can use an AoO(or immediate action, or swift action, or whatever they are being called nowadays) to attempt a grapple check vs DC 20(or opposed check vs grappled creature/character) to interpose the grapple-ee in the way.</p><p></p><p>I'm sorry if I sound condescending and really do not mean to be as I am not a game designer and am not as expert at the various DnD rules as I sometimes like to think, but this ability in particular strikes me as one of the things that the 4e team was trying to avoid ... but then, I guess I would need to know the full 4e ruleset to be able to judge its viability ... sunofa ... I gotta wait and see! Curses!</p><p></p><p><em>Edit: clarity</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Goblyn, post: 4033776, member: 16889"] Smaller? I don't think so. Now that this ability exists, variations on this ability will likely rise, not to mention feats, skill tricks, talents ... whatever you want to call them. That is rules bloat. Anyone without this special bugbear ability can't use the 'meat shield' technique ... impossible unless you have the feat. Doesn't that sound a lot like 3.5e? Or more specifically, one of the things that the design team were trying to get away from in 3.5e? How would this more easily be applied? Thus: [i]A creature within a grapple targeted by an external attack[/i] can use an AoO(or immediate action, or swift action, or whatever they are being called nowadays) to attempt a grapple check vs DC 20(or opposed check vs grappled creature/character) to interpose the grapple-ee in the way. I'm sorry if I sound condescending and really do not mean to be as I am not a game designer and am not as expert at the various DnD rules as I sometimes like to think, but this ability in particular strikes me as one of the things that the 4e team was trying to avoid ... but then, I guess I would need to know the full 4e ruleset to be able to judge its viability ... sunofa ... I gotta wait and see! Curses! [i]Edit: clarity[/i] [/QUOTE]
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