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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FadedC" data-source="post: 4036025" data-attributes="member: 55463">Hmm....well it's very rare for me to use monsters more then a few times in any given campaign, granted there are some like orcs who do get a lot more play time. But I would be surprised if my players encountered bugbears often enough to get bored of one specific type of bugbear. The addition of "cool" bugbears makes it more likely they will ever encounter them at all, as currently there are way more evil humanoids then most campaigns have niches for. Anything that makes a humanoid monster more then just orcs with 2 more HD and slightly higher strength is a good thing.Most of your complaints about monsters being sort of 1 trick things that get dull after a few time could really apply to almost every monster in 3e. The only real point you make is that it's nice to be able to take a "vanilla" monster like the orc and be able to have dozens of different types of orcs without relying on a couple with stats in the monster manual. If that's difficult to do then I agree it will be a problem. However there are supposed to be rules for creating custom npcs, and I can't imagine they can't be applied to orcs just as easily. In fact one might reasonably create goblin/orc/etc stranglers using the bugbear strangler as an archetype (though a goblin using somebody as a human shield seems kind of wrong for size reasons).Inconsistant abilities will always be a problem with expansion books, both for player and monster powers. I like the MM5, but the fleshy hook isn't the only ability that's inconsistant in it's application. That's not a problem with monsters abilities as much as a problem with expansions materials. Finally as stated before players learning monster manuevers should be adjudicated on a case per case basis, but I wouldn't expect monster powers to all be so minor that they could be justifiably learned by spending a single feat or talent.</blockquote>

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