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Message: <blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 5575574" data-attributes="member: 1164">Well, if you chose to read the parentheses section as a requirement, rather than a reminder to those using BAB based attacks, that is your choice. I read that part as just a reminder BAB based attacks keep dropping in bonus.  "If you get multiple attacks, you can attempt to start a grapple multiple times (at successively lower base attack bonuses)."Note the wording of <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialAttacks.htm#startingaGrapple" target="_blank">"Starting a Grapple" </a>vs. <a href="http://"http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialAttacks.htm#ifYoureGrappling"" target="_blank">"If You’re Grappling"</a>. You are on the right track that <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialAttacks.htm#ifYoureGrappling" target="_blank">once you are grappled, the actions you can take are limited to your BAB</a>....Checks forum... I know Pathfinder has that sort of limitation on grappling, in d20 maintaining a grapple has no such requirement unless rules compendium pulled something out of its corn chute. <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialAttacks.htm#ifYoureGrappling" target="_blank">Maintaining a PIN, does though since it only lasts for one round</a>. otherwise d20 only has this "Maintain Grapple. To maintain the grapple for later rounds, you must move into the target’s space. (This movement is free and doesn’t count as part of your movement in the round.)" Note that improved grab lets the grabber pull the victim into it's space instead.Without Improved grab, the situation could never occur. Ignoring the likelihood of at least a few of those AoOs hitting (stopping that grapple attempt), there are three brick walls that still stop this. <ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">you HAVE to enter and stay in someone's space to maintain grapple them in d20. [ improved Grab instead changes that to the victim is pulled into the grabber's space <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil    :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /> ] . </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">that taking -20 is an option provided by improved grab [though IIRC the Rules Compendium judicially legislated it was an option for all grapplers]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">you would need a lot of limbs to pull that off.</li> </ol></blockquote>

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