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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5577934" data-attributes="member: 6669384">One note:  The original post asked about grappling one or more people and doing a D-Door straight up.Teleport and/or Dimension Door allows someone to take along *willing* passengers.  Unless the people in the Grapple were willing to go along for the ride, they get left behind.As for the grapple itself:  There are a lot of rules that cover this from one angle or another.  We can question whether the monster can interrupt its whirlwind attack sequence to grapple someone, we can ask about iterative attacks from BAB v Multiattack from many arms, like the Marilith, and we can argue about whether they suffer -20 on Grapple to try and grab someone else.My own thought regarding the particular monster:  To grab someone in its claw it has to open that claw.  To hold someone in a grapple with that claw it has to keep the claw closed.The two seem like mutually exclusive concepts.  I honestly don't see how it could grab someone in that claw without releasing whoever is already in it.The Marilith mentioned can grapple with her tail.  Once she's done that her tail is occupied.  She may decided to take the -20 on Grapple to do other things (like attack with her 6 arms), but I don't see how she could do anything else with her tail except constrict someone already in her grasp.The master grappling machine has to be the Kraken though.  6 arms with 30 foot reach, 2 tentacles with 60 ft reach, and Improved Grab at +44.  It can grab at long range (60 feet) then pass its victim back to a shorter arm so as to free up the longer one.  Most consider it a death sentence to be grabbed, since at +44 it's pretty much an unbreakable grasp.  But when you consider the -20 penalty for it to hold one PC while doing just about anything else, it stops being impossible, and starts to resemble the CR 12 monster it's listed as.So a question for the Kraken:  Is it -20 per grapple, or just -20 total?  That is, can it in fact grapple 8 different characters at an effective +24, or is it 1 at +44, 2 at +24, 3 at +4, 4 at -16, etc?</blockquote>

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