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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2635362" data-attributes="member: 23094">Depends on what they're sayin'!Right - which is why I referred to the RotG articles as, sometimes, a collection of house rules.  It's probably even an OK house rule to make grappling more difficult if you've got a shield, but it certainly isn't in the actual rulebooks.Therefore, I don't think such a rule has any place in a series of articles that are supposed to explain the way the rules actually work - except, maybe, as a sidebar house rule example.Arms, teeth, etc.  Yes - that's actually the way the rules actually work.  If you want a house rule to make grappling more difficult, then the RotG's suggestions might be for you.I don't think it's a good idea to implement that rule, personally.  I think grappling is complicated enough without additional modifiers and conditionals being bandied about.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Which is why, in the actual rules, an armored defender doesn't have any penalties to his grapple check based on his armor or shield use.So, it sounds like you won't be implementing this particular house rule?</blockquote>