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Grapple troubles for creatures with Improved Grab
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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1949981" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>Basically, yes. Though, I really do not know how a Mind Flayer could end up with two or three tentacles attached, normally. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Once Improved Grab has been used successfully, the grapple is on. Only one tentacle is attached at that time. Now (next round) with a successful grapple check, the Mind Flayer can attach all the others, so it's only either one or four of them.</p><p></p><p>Of course, one could improve on my above idea (I guess that is where you are getting at), and allow the Mind Flayer to use Improved Grab on all four of the attacks (even if a previous attack already initiated a grapple successfully; but without any bonuses for previously attached tentacles) and then after the full-attack action the grapple is started with somewhere between one and four tentacles attached and things proceed as normal, including the switch-over to BAB.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Switch to BAB.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, the Tarrasque has a listed BAB of +48, if that answers your question... but no creature can get more than 4 attacks from iterative BAB.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope, no penalty to grapple checks, only to attack rolls and AC.</p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1949981, member: 478"] Basically, yes. Though, I really do not know how a Mind Flayer could end up with two or three tentacles attached, normally. ;) Once Improved Grab has been used successfully, the grapple is on. Only one tentacle is attached at that time. Now (next round) with a successful grapple check, the Mind Flayer can attach all the others, so it's only either one or four of them. Of course, one could improve on my above idea (I guess that is where you are getting at), and allow the Mind Flayer to use Improved Grab on all four of the attacks (even if a previous attack already initiated a grapple successfully; but without any bonuses for previously attached tentacles) and then after the full-attack action the grapple is started with somewhere between one and four tentacles attached and things proceed as normal, including the switch-over to BAB. Switch to BAB. Well, the Tarrasque has a listed BAB of +48, if that answers your question... but no creature can get more than 4 attacks from iterative BAB. Nope, no penalty to grapple checks, only to attack rolls and AC. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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