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Message: <blockquote data-quote="argo" data-source="post: 1759782" data-attributes="member: 5752">Well, that octopus deals natural weapon damage when making the attack that establishes the grapple as well as with each successful grapple check that follows, moreover if it has the Constrict ability (giant octopus) then it also deals constrict damage with the improved grab attempt as well as with each following successful grapple check.  Trust me, damage from grapple monsters adds up fast.You never get itterative attacks with natural weapons, no matter how high your BAB.  Instead creatures with natural weapons usually get to make multiple attacks at their highest BAB which often works out to their benefit.This is why most grappling monsters usually get constrict or rend abilities that do obscene ammounts of damage, they roll everythign up into just one or two attacks for simplicity's sake.Hope that helps.</blockquote>