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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pinotage" data-source="post: 1766211" data-attributes="member: 15194">More QuestionsOK, I have some more questions on this topic:Say the giant octopus grapples a creature in a round, and its turn comes up in the next round. Can it either (a) cause tentacle and constrict damage on a successful grapple check or (b) use all its other natural attacks to attack the same creature at -4 but forgo the hold and constrict damage?Also, both the octopus and the kraken's description say that it can make an AoO against a sunder attempt while it is grappling with another target. Anybody care to explain this to me? Is it a special case, because since it's grappling it doesn't threaten an area and hence can't take AoO. Or don't you need to threaten an area to take an AoO against an action that provokes one (not a move action).Thanks again!Pinotage</blockquote>