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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Prism" data-source="post: 1767197" data-attributes="member: 9501">To sumarize some of the great points made by various people this is how I now see itStarts the round grapplingA creature can only attack with 1 natural weapon due to the quotes from the rake ability and the main grapple rules  However with a full attack you are allowed mutiple grapple attempts based on your BAB and this includes creatures with natural attacks.  They couldn't make more than 1 attack a round but they could use the other iterative attacks to perform other actions such as pin, escape, damage opponent, use opponents weapon or break anothers pin. None of these are actual attacks (they are grapple checks) and therefore are not limited by the normal rule of 1 attack only with each natural weaponGrapples an opponent part way through its attacks sequenceThe creature follows its normal full attack sequence until it grapples its opponent. At this point it is grappling and loses all remaining natural attacks. This is supported by the use of the -20 option which basically prevents the creature from being grappled itself So if you can use your remaining attacks as a benefit when you take the -20 I can only assume you lose your remaining attacks when you don't. This would also support the quotes above which only allow 1 natural weapon when grappling. A giant octopus or such like with many attacks is probably best taking the -20 option here to keep its other attacksI also believe that at this point the creature would get any iterative attacks based upon BAB to allow it to do additonal grapple actions, assuming it is in the middle of a full attack. Ending the grapple part way through the grapple sequenceThis could be because the opponent dies or is swallowed as an example. At this point the creature has only used 1 natural weapon in the round (possibly mutliple iterative grapples with it however) and therefore, now not being grappled anymore can use any remaining natural attacks as normal to attack other opponents - and possibly even grapple themCreature chooses to grapple with 1 part of its bodyThe creatures gets iterative grapple attempts with its 1 body part and still gets its remaining attacks in addition. The -20 on the grapple checks makes this a pretty difficult option but probably worth it for multiattack creatures like the giant octopus or dragons</blockquote>

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