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<blockquote data-quote="noeuphoria" data-source="post: 1780266" data-attributes="member: 13395"><p>Well, attacking at -4 isn't actually an opposed grapple check, you just roll to hit with a -4 penalty b/c you're grappling with the person. An opposed grapple check denotes you and your opponent rolling off against each other. So our next question: Tyrannosaurus makes 2 opposed grapple checks and then swallows the character. He now is not grappled, but could have made 1 more opposed grapple check. Even if there are characters in range, I would rule that what he did is the equivalent of a full-attack, he can now take a 5 foot step or simply end his turn; no other actions are possible. But, scenario 2: a fighter with +16 BAB is grappling, he elects to use the "attack at -4" option. He kills his grappling opponent with the first 2 hits. The fighter is now not grappled. I would rule that since he was using the full attack action, he has 2 more attacks, and he can make a 5 foot step. The last, confusing option: a monk with +11 BAB is grappling: he elects to use his BAB to make opposed grapple checks. With his first 2 opposed grapple checks, he kills the opponent using the "deal damage equivalent to an unarmed strike" option for winning opposed grapple checks. Now the monk is no longer grappled; but can he make one last attack. For consistency's sake, I would say same case as the dinosaur, his last opposed grapple is just wasted, he can now make a 5 foot step or end his turn.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="noeuphoria, post: 1780266, member: 13395"] Well, attacking at -4 isn't actually an opposed grapple check, you just roll to hit with a -4 penalty b/c you're grappling with the person. An opposed grapple check denotes you and your opponent rolling off against each other. So our next question: Tyrannosaurus makes 2 opposed grapple checks and then swallows the character. He now is not grappled, but could have made 1 more opposed grapple check. Even if there are characters in range, I would rule that what he did is the equivalent of a full-attack, he can now take a 5 foot step or simply end his turn; no other actions are possible. But, scenario 2: a fighter with +16 BAB is grappling, he elects to use the "attack at -4" option. He kills his grappling opponent with the first 2 hits. The fighter is now not grappled. I would rule that since he was using the full attack action, he has 2 more attacks, and he can make a 5 foot step. The last, confusing option: a monk with +11 BAB is grappling: he elects to use his BAB to make opposed grapple checks. With his first 2 opposed grapple checks, he kills the opponent using the "deal damage equivalent to an unarmed strike" option for winning opposed grapple checks. Now the monk is no longer grappled; but can he make one last attack. For consistency's sake, I would say same case as the dinosaur, his last opposed grapple is just wasted, he can now make a 5 foot step or end his turn. [/QUOTE]
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