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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 3346235" data-attributes="member: 15999">As the player responsible for the dire bear, I think it's overpowered to give the bear claw damage on *every* opposed grapple check it wins.  Here's why:Round 1: Attack with claw then use Improved Grab.  Opponent makes 3 iterative grapple checks to escape and fails -- does the bear do claw damage each time it wins one of those opposed checks?Round 2: Pin opponent, doing claw damage and, if it is allowed iterative attacks, use the "damage your opponent option" for claw damage again.  Opponent tries 3 checks to escape and presumably fails each time, taking still more claw damage.Rather, I'd just give it the claw damage on the "damage your opponent" grapple checks that it takes.As to how many checks it gets per round... one interpretation is that the bear gets only one grapple check per round, since it is NOT allowed multiple attacks due to BAB (uses natural weapons). Another is that the BAB allows iterative *grapple checks,* just not iterative *attacks.*As to using multiple natural weapons in a grapple, the text for "Rake" in the MM glossary clarifies that creatures without Rake can only use one natural weapon in a grapple.</blockquote>