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Grappling with a Flaming Sphere, a burning Web & a trapped Brown Bear?
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<blockquote data-quote="DrSpunj" data-source="post: 1368049" data-attributes="member: 994"><p>Thanks for the answers, <strong>jgsugden</strong>. I thought I'd scared everyone off! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p> </p><p>I agree with everything you've said, so let me try to put this together mentally, and let me know if you (or anyone else brave enough to chime in here) agree:</p><p> </p><p>The Bear and Elf are Grappling, so they both effectively share/have a space of 10'. Even though the <em>Flaming Sphere</em> is delineated as a 3' sphere, it affects the entire 10' space because they are grappling/wrestling/rolling around (maybe? see below). When the <em>Web</em> hits, the <em>Flaming Sphere</em> burns away the webbing in that same 10' space (the remainder of the <em>Web</em> is unaffected), thereby causing 2d4 damage to both the Bear and Elf. Because the <em>Web</em> has been burned away, neither the Bear nor Elf are Entangled or Immobilized (regardless of their Reflex saves), but are, of course, still Grappling.</p><p> </p><p>Does that seem right? fair? balanced? To both the Bear and the Elf?</p><p> </p><p>The thing that doesn't sit right is that <em>Web</em> says a fire source only burns away a 5' square. If we go with that, then both the Bear and Elf take 2d4 of fire damage, but are still Entangled/Immobilized by the 3 other <em>Web</em>bed squares making up their 10' space. Next round (or with a different fire source) you can potentially light 1, 2 or even 3 more of those squares (heck, just moving the <em>Flaming Sphere</em> around with a single Move Action would do it) and do an additional 2d4 <em>for each square</em>. That translates into a total of 8d4 for the Bear (and by extension, the Elf since they're Grappling and sharing the space).</p><p> </p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> Which version is correct?</p><p> </p><p>This is the last thing I'd like to set straight. Thanks for the help with the rest of it! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>DrSpunj</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DrSpunj, post: 1368049, member: 994"] Thanks for the answers, [b]jgsugden[/b]. I thought I'd scared everyone off! :p I agree with everything you've said, so let me try to put this together mentally, and let me know if you (or anyone else brave enough to chime in here) agree: The Bear and Elf are Grappling, so they both effectively share/have a space of 10'. Even though the [i]Flaming Sphere[/i] is delineated as a 3' sphere, it affects the entire 10' space because they are grappling/wrestling/rolling around (maybe? see below). When the [i]Web[/i] hits, the [i]Flaming Sphere[/i] burns away the webbing in that same 10' space (the remainder of the [i]Web[/i] is unaffected), thereby causing 2d4 damage to both the Bear and Elf. Because the [i]Web[/i] has been burned away, neither the Bear nor Elf are Entangled or Immobilized (regardless of their Reflex saves), but are, of course, still Grappling. Does that seem right? fair? balanced? To both the Bear and the Elf? The thing that doesn't sit right is that [i]Web[/i] says a fire source only burns away a 5' square. If we go with that, then both the Bear and Elf take 2d4 of fire damage, but are still Entangled/Immobilized by the 3 other [i]Web[/i]bed squares making up their 10' space. Next round (or with a different fire source) you can potentially light 1, 2 or even 3 more of those squares (heck, just moving the [i]Flaming Sphere[/i] around with a single Move Action would do it) and do an additional 2d4 [i]for each square[/i]. That translates into a total of 8d4 for the Bear (and by extension, the Elf since they're Grappling and sharing the space). :confused: Which version is correct? This is the last thing I'd like to set straight. Thanks for the help with the rest of it! :) DrSpunj [/QUOTE]
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