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Grappling with a Flaming Sphere, a burning Web & a trapped Brown Bear?
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<blockquote data-quote="Terry Edwards" data-source="post: 1368059" data-attributes="member: 10978"><p>No, no, no. When a creature with Improved Grab is grappling a creature at least one size category smaller than itself it may choose to use it's improved grappling body part at -20 or grapple normally. There is no check needed to switch between the two grappling modes but it is a round by round choice so the brown bear from the example could choose to take -20 on it's grapple check in which case it is not considered grappled (It threatens squares, keeps it's Dex bonus and movement) and may move with it's grappled opponent (no grapple check required, with improved Grab you only need to be able to bear the weight [no pun intended]) or attack other opponents or use any other abilities it may have. Meanwhile the Elf from the example is grappled by the brown bears claw, in this case the brown bear makes a grapple check at -20 against the elf. If successful the bear deals claw damage, if it fails there is no damage inflicted but the elf and claw are still grappling. When the elf's turn comes around it is still grappling with the claw and not the entire brown bear so he/she makes an opposed grapple check against the brown bear (the brown bear's grapple check is at -20) to (more than likely) attempt escape.</p><p></p><p>That should clear up the improved grapple questions.</p><p></p><p>For non-targeted spells such as your flaming sphere I would treat is as an attack and roll randomly to see who gets burned. I would give better odds to the burning bear though.</p><p></p><p>As far as what the bear can do after moving from the fire...Well it should not have made a grapple check to move as I stated earlier (due to improved grab). It should move normally leaving a standard action open to do whatever it wants.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Terry Edwards, post: 1368059, member: 10978"] No, no, no. When a creature with Improved Grab is grappling a creature at least one size category smaller than itself it may choose to use it's improved grappling body part at -20 or grapple normally. There is no check needed to switch between the two grappling modes but it is a round by round choice so the brown bear from the example could choose to take -20 on it's grapple check in which case it is not considered grappled (It threatens squares, keeps it's Dex bonus and movement) and may move with it's grappled opponent (no grapple check required, with improved Grab you only need to be able to bear the weight [no pun intended]) or attack other opponents or use any other abilities it may have. Meanwhile the Elf from the example is grappled by the brown bears claw, in this case the brown bear makes a grapple check at -20 against the elf. If successful the bear deals claw damage, if it fails there is no damage inflicted but the elf and claw are still grappling. When the elf's turn comes around it is still grappling with the claw and not the entire brown bear so he/she makes an opposed grapple check against the brown bear (the brown bear's grapple check is at -20) to (more than likely) attempt escape. That should clear up the improved grapple questions. For non-targeted spells such as your flaming sphere I would treat is as an attack and roll randomly to see who gets burned. I would give better odds to the burning bear though. As far as what the bear can do after moving from the fire...Well it should not have made a grapple check to move as I stated earlier (due to improved grab). It should move normally leaving a standard action open to do whatever it wants. [/QUOTE]
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